Can a Recognizable America Survive a Majority-Minority Future? – Part 1

The ZMan wrote a very interesting post called, “No Easy Answers.”  It’s an analysis of the consequences of large scale non-European immigration into the United States, its consequences and an opinion on the useful response that white Americans should have.  I’ll critique the essential portions of the essay to show what I think is the situation.  Note that I’ve cut and pasted several of his sentences together to save some space.  His text is in bold face font.

 

“Given current immigration and fertility numbers, America will be a majority-minority country within a generation. The crisis of our age is not just how we respond to this reality, but how we come to accept it.  The civic nationalists will move heaven and earth in order to avoid facing demographic reality.  For the recently red-pilled, all of their efforts were based on the belief that the solution was simple. Just red-pill everyone and the problem is solved.”

I agree with this analysis and the characterization of the reactions of the civic nationalists and the newly woke dissident right.

 

“The possibility that liberal democracy inevitably leads to cultural suicide is unpleasant, so even the red-pilled look the other way.  The fact is, another bit of that dreaded demographic reality is that what comes next cannot include the current system of governance. In a multicultural society, everyone’s primary loyalty is to their group. Liberal democracy assumes people are loyal to their narrow economic interests. In a majority-minority society, this cannot possibly work.  What comes next for us is what we see in the Middle East. In every country, one group dominates the rest, imposing their idea of order on the society. Saddam controlled Iraq for his people. The Persians run Iran. The Muslims run Lebanon, where every hill and valley may as well be its own country. The rule in multi-cultural, multi-tribal societies, is that one tribe rules the rest. That’s our future. The question is which groups will come to dominate the rest and what sort of system will they impose in order to remain in charge.”

ZMan’s thesis is that in a majority-minority society the form of government will devolve into a rule by the strongest tribe.  The implied condition is that the rule is enforced by the threat of military or street violence.  His examples are middle-eastern dictatorships.  I’m not convinced of this for a couple of reasons.  One reason is the existence of places like Switzerland and Singapore where a multi-ethnic state exists in a reasonably peaceful coexistence.  And secondly a case could be made that the immigration of the Irish and the Eastern and Southern Europeans during the late 19th and early 20th century was an analogous if not equivalent example of a majority-minority situation that while disrupting and modifying the United states, did not destroy the country.  The American culture was attractive and strong enough to subsume the new immigrant populations and produce a changed but recognizable United States.  The real difference this time is the degree to which there is a significant portion of the American people who are actively working to destroy the existing culture through anti-American and specifically anti-white activities and propaganda.  It seems to me the focus of white Americans should be identifying the people and institutions actively working to destroy our people and work to destroy them instead.  And the reason I think this will work is that recently there have been some successes.  The Supreme Court case where the wedding baker was exonerated based on freedom of religion.  The other recent Supreme Court decision that bears on this is the Ohio state law that allowed clearing the voting rolls of ineligible voters.  These affirmations of the clear intent of constitutional safeguards will allow the United States to continue to function as the rational and enlightened sort of country it’s always been.  And these rulings occurred even before Anthony Kennedy is replaced.  Once he has been, I could see a conservative Supreme Court ending affirmative action.  Now, the argument against this is that something like ending affirmative action will never be allowed to happen.

But that will be the test.  If the ZMan is right then even if the whole white population is “woke,” nothing will be done to alleviate the anti-white activity.  But if I’m right then with someone like Trump, a republican who’s actually on our side, we should make some headway and see some victories won.  In the next part of this post I’ll try to think of concrete actions that need to be taken.

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mtnforge
mtnforge
2 years ago

Most definitely as you point out the domestic natural born enemies are a great threat and very destructive. It is difficult for many to wrap their heads around such Trojan Horses, the scope and scale of betrayal by fellow Americans and institutions which have been converged is beyond many’s experience. I’m not making excuses for anything. Just pointing out a characteristic of the unwoke or newly red pilled. Having said that, I think Vox Day is correct about the Zeitgeist, and that Alt-Right is inevitable, because the domestic enemies among as they are exposed and revealed, validate reason and critical… Read more »

mtnforge
mtnforge
2 years ago
Reply to  photog

Ten-four on the Overton Window. It seems to get further from their reach every day. As in there is more winning than loosing, a 180 deg turn from the previous 3 regime factions who usurped the presidency. There was this sense of loosing on a steady incremental level, but now, for the cabal at bed all they are achieving is one step forward, two or three back. Highly satisfying, something more though, each winning fits a pattern strategic action. It is quite remarkable watching Mr. Trump make his moves towards eliminating the evil within the system of the large nation… Read more »

mtnforge
mtnforge
2 years ago
Reply to  photog

Me too on Mueller. I’ve often speculated there has to be some important element for allowing Mueller and the rest to continue their idiotic operations. Something akin to not stopping your enemy while he is making a mistake, old military dictum. Like you it is confusing, or fustrating, because we dont have the key elements into what this is all about. Regardless, at the end of the day, no mater what Mr. Trump is about ultimately, at least in the sphere of my life, it all begins and stops with me. Having said that, being forewarned is to be forearmed.… Read more »

mtnforge
mtnforge
2 years ago
Reply to  photog

Are you aware of the amazing number of sealed Federal indictments for 2018? By all accounts its a stunning 40,000. Forty Thousand? In previous years its said approximately 1,200 sealed indictments are fairly regular. Its interesting, as late in 2017 I read there was about 3,200, and since then all thru 2018 the number has increased. No one seems to have any idea why 40,000, other than some speculation it is linked to a myriad of deep state crimes and corruption. In any case, I got to thinking the other day, why AG Sessions is totally absent from public view,… Read more »

TomD
2 years ago

A successful society of several hundred million persons is a highly ordered system. If you tear that system down expecting that the result will be an equally ordered but changed system, you are stupid to a level approaching evil. There is a case for equating entropy to the Devil. I think that, pretty much by definition, once a very highly ordered system gets beyond a certain point in a cascading collapse, any combination of elements from within that system is extraordinarily unlikely to return it to a similarly ordered state. Like winning-powerball-10-times-in-a-row unlikely. In other words, what arises from the… Read more »

mtnforge
mtnforge
2 years ago
Reply to  photog

Excellent points. I’m with you 110%. Closing the borders is an imperative of the utmost importance. It is an actual invasion which has to be stopped. How not doing so can be justified is a lie of biblical proportions.
As Trumps parting observation as he was stepping on his chopper to the press, “There is no country without a border”.

mtnforge
mtnforge
2 years ago
Reply to  TomD

The politics of envy are a Marxian prerogative of high value. It permeates every element of the agenda. There is also the emotion, and empowerment of being a component of the hive/collective. Very powerful attraction, where one can abandon all reason and prudence, especially prudence, without consequence, because the Mob. Many are attracted to this drug. What it becomes is then Diversity, equality, gender preference etc, are dress rehearsal for civil/class war. None of those things exist in nature nor Scripture. Especially equality. The politics of victimhood, along with strategy of divide people to conquer them is an ages old… Read more »

TomD
2 years ago

“dīvide et imperā” Divide and Conquer, first attributed to Phillip of Macedonia about 2400 years ago though the concept probably far predates that.

The advantages of the strategy are obvious, divide your opponent into as many non-mutually-supporting subgroups as possible and defeat them in detail.

It is obvious that splitting as much of the entirety of the US into competing victim groups is the general strategy of the (dems, deep staters, progressives, leftists, socialists). So obvious that I can’t believe it goes unremarked for the most part.

mtnforge
mtnforge
2 years ago
Reply to  photog

Killing the goose that lays the golden eggs deprives them of the wealth transfer system of strip mining the intrinsic wealth of the people. Can’t run a totalitarian state without steady tribute from the productive people. I guess its a matter of balances. Which proof lays with the House of Representatives, who have sole power of the purse, and over our lifetime, have we ever witnessed the defunding or total removal of federal funds aka the peoples wealth extracted via extortionary IRS? Not to my knowledge. Every rouge agency can be stopped dead in its tracks, like the FBI, BLM,… Read more »

mtnforge
mtnforge
2 years ago
Reply to  photog

Killing the goose that lays the golden eggs deprives them of the wealth transfer system of strip mining the intrinsic wealth of the people. Can’t run a totalitarian state without steady tribute from the productive people. I guess its a matter of balances. Which proof lays with the House of Representatives, who have sole power of the purse, and over our lifetime, have we ever witnessed the defunding or total removal of federal funds aka the peoples wealth extracted via extortionary IRS? Not to my knowledge. Every rouge agency can be stopped dead in its tracks, like the FBI, BLM,… Read more »

mtnforge
mtnforge
2 years ago
Reply to  TomD

Read a comment by a federal judge on the “Patriot” Act, seems like 30 years the way things are advancing, it was about the totalitarian dangers the act implied in regards to power once given is impossible to peaceful take back. Went something like this: Totalitarian rule strives to divide those it has power over the people through the use of threat of force to create an atmosphere of fear, in doing so it is a much simpler task to define who are then not afraid, because they stick out like sore thumbs, thus they can be readily isolated, left… Read more »