How Many Humans Should There Be on Earth?

I asked Grok how many humans are currently living on Earth.  It said, “As of June 12, 2025, the world population is approximately 8.23 billion people. This estimate is based on projections from the United Nations and other demographic sources, which indicate the global population surpassed 8 billion in November 2022 and continues to grow at a rate of about 0.84% to 0.89% per year.

Eight billion two hundred thirty million is a big number.  That’s a whole lot of people.  At the same time, most advanced countries are barely or not even replacing their dead with children.  At the same time, we’ve been told that AI will make almost all of our cognitive work skills redundant and substandard.

These three facts being true at the same time means that the future of humanity is in flux.  We know that people like Bill Gates and the other globalists think the answer is stop humans from producing children.  That simplifies their work to merely managing a last generation of aging humans while the population of Earth is reduced to some tiny fraction of the current billions.  And that lucky remnant will be the globalists who will inherit the Earth without all those messy and expensive plebians.

And they’re making a very good start to the plan.  They’ve brainwashed a good chunk of the Millennials and the Zoomers into thinking producing children is morally wrong.  They’ve convinced them that Gaia isn’t happy sharing the planet with humans and the best thing to do is play video games, watch porn and take drugs while waiting for death.  Of course that’s not everyone.  Plenty of people are still having kids but the numbers are way down.

The real question is how do we want the human population of Earth to exist going forward?  Well, when I was young, we were told that the opposite problem existed.  Malthusian theory said that eventually human population growth would eventually outstrip food supply and the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse; starvation, war, pestilence and death would ensue.  The reason this didn’t happen is a combination of technological advances in food production (chemical fertilizers, pesticides, mechanical planting and harvesting equipment and superior plant species) and effective birth control agents.

At this point governments have to incentivize people (especially women) to have children.  Hungary is one of the pioneers in this idea.  They provide incentives for Hungarian women to have children and even provide lifetime tax-free status to women that have four children.

Obviously unlimited human reproduction could become a problem again in the future but currently the globalist campaign has made that an unlikely problem for the foreseeable future.  But the question is will the United States shift its policies to try and restore fertility to at least replacement levels or will we depend on immigration to take up the slack?  If we go with immigration then it’s inevitable that the country will change drastically.  The culture that made America such a desirable place to live has already been eroded by the globalist program of demonizing the European descendants that built the nation.  If this continues much longer it will inevitably turn the United States into a third world country like Brazil or Mexico.

As to what will be the eventual population of Earth (my original question), I think inevitably it will decrease.  And this will be caused by the decay of Western civilization and the attendant degradation of food production capacity.  Currently western countries feed the third world.  And feed them so well that obesity is endemic throughout these poor countries.  When Europe has transitioned to a majority non-European population it will no longer be able to “feed the world.”  And the four horsemen will reappear to balance out the population back to food production limits.  Within a century the population of Earth will be about a billion people.  Should it be more?  We’ll never know.

Global Revolt. Sort Of.

The last few days the results of the EU elections came in and the “far right” parties did extremely well across the various countries of the Union.  There was a coinciding drop in the Green and Far Left parties across the EU.  And the national far right parties in France, Germany, Austria, Holland, Italy and even Belgium are all either increasing or have already become major parties.

Europe is not the United States.  But the same policies; runaway immigration, green policy sticker shock and woke repression, are souring the populaces of these countries against Leftist governments.  Of course, the globalists are fighting tooth and nail to suppress this revolt.  The various leftist and “centrist” parties band together to try and quarantine these populist parties and label them racist, fascist, reactionary and illegal.  Germany keeps threatening to shut down their AfD (Alternative for Germany) party for being anti-immigrant.

But slowly and surely it seems that things are swinging away from these policies.  Last year the Netherlands voted Geert Wilder’s party into power because they’re tired of the immigrants and the green assault on prosperity.  The Dutch are hardly xenophobic fascists.  They’ve just had enough of the madness.  And it looks like France is getting sick of it too.  After the French gave the highest vote total to their far-right party in the EU vote, Macron dissolved the French parliament and will call for new elections.  It is expected that Marine Le Pen’s National Rally party will end up with the largest number of seats in the body and there is a slight possibility they could cobble together a coalition.  Italy already has a populist right government.  So do Austria and Hungary.  Even Belgium; the very heart of the globalist bureaucracy, has a growing populist right party.  Even in the lefty haven of Sweden the right has come to power although what passes for the right in Sweden still looks like woke communists from where I stand.

Now don’t get me wrong.  None of this progress means Europe is becoming conservative.  This is like the spasmodic flailing that a drowning man experiences just before he expires and sinks to the ocean floor.  I think the chances of any of these countries escaping the grip of their leftist elites at this point are vanishingly slim.  It would take a miracle.  But it does show that they haven’t completely lost all instinct for survival.  And it might allow for a real revolt when things become even more desperate.

It is interesting that the United States, England and France are all about to have major elections within months of each other.  What I’m interested in seeing is what tell-tale clues can be gleaned from the results of the elections and the reactions of the citizens to these results.  In each case there will be quite different results and different reactions but, in each circumstance, we may learn a lot about what the future holds based on these reactions.

For instance, in the United States I’m expecting Joe Biden to be re-elected.  And I expect this result to produce widespread shock, anger and disillusionment with the political system here.  And that disillusionment may be a better result for bringing about change than a Trump win.  But a Trump win would also be an opportunity to learn about the state of our country.  Could the elites be very worried by how angry the populace has become over their manipulation of the government?  An honest election might show that to be likely.  So, there are things we could learn from this election either way.

And likewise with the British and the French.  Each of these countries is suffering from stress and are very angry at their leaders.  With the correct new leadership large changes are possible.  So, I look forward to all this activity.  But I confess I’m impatient for the results to be known.  I don’t want the drama.  I just want to read the end of the book.

Guest Contributor – TomD – 09JUN2024 – Not Your Grandpa’s Elites

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TomD

I don’t know.

I do agree that crooks, incompetents and charlatans have been in American politics forever but I suspect that they had no real interest in destroying the society in which they lived.

The progressive Dims? Not incompetents, that’s for sure. But I do believe that they largely hate the US and wish to tear it down to replace with a socialist authoritarian utopia. Utopia for the elite. For you and me, not so much.

The progressives want us disarmed, private vehicles gone (except elite), and everyone on the dole and living in huge Soviet style arkologies. Males castrated

David Brooks Admits the Truth

They know.  We know they know.  They know we know that they know.

The only question is when it all blows up.

What if We’re the Bad Guys Here?

“Daniel Markovits summarized years of research in his book “The Meritocracy Trap”: “Today, middle-class children lose out to the rich children at school, and middle-class adults lose out to elite graduates at work. Meritocracy blocks the middle class from opportunity. Then it blames those who lose a competition for income and status that, even when everyone plays by the rules, only the rich can win.””

“But there’s a larger context here. As the sociologist E. Digby Baltzell wrote decades ago, “History is a graveyard of classes which have preferred caste privileges to leadership.” That is the destiny our class is now flirting with. We can condemn the Trumpian populists all day until the cows come home, but the real question is when will we stop behaving in ways that make Trumpism inevitable.”