{"id":15901,"date":"2021-09-09T14:04:20","date_gmt":"2021-09-09T18:04:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/?p=15901"},"modified":"2021-09-09T14:04:20","modified_gmt":"2021-09-09T18:04:20","slug":"larry-correias-writerdojo-episode-4","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/2021\/09\/09\/larry-correias-writerdojo-episode-4\/","title":{"rendered":"Larry Correia’s WriterDojo Episode 4"},"content":{"rendered":"

I was just listening to episode 4 of Larry Correia’s podcast on writing<\/a>.\u00a0 The episode was called “Outlining vs Discovery” and it was exactly what I’ve been working on in my own writing.\u00a0 Discovery is also called “seat of the pants” writing.\u00a0 That’s where you just start writing and stop when you reach the end.\u00a0 And that’s what I usually use.\u00a0 The danger is that you can either paint yourself in a corner or meander off into the middle of nowhere.\u00a0 Outlining is exactly what it sounds like.\u00a0 That’s where you take an idea for a story and then develop it into a story with a beginning middle and end.\u00a0 And depending on how detailed you want to get it may include a number of the characters, sub-plots and even important scenes.<\/p>\n

Larry and his podcast partner Steve Diamond represent the opposite sides in this dichotomy.\u00a0 Larry is an outliner and Steve discovers.\u00a0 But listening to both of them describe how each gets around the weaknesses of each of these two methods gives a better understanding to the listener about how both methods are used by every writer.\u00a0 Basically no matter how much outlining you do it’s while you’re actually writing the story that “discovering” the true nature of your protagonist emerges.\u00a0 And even if you think that you’re not outlining at all, the back of your mind is filling in that outline for you.\u00a0 You may not know where the story is going but your subconscious does.<\/p>\n

But it is true that every writer is one kind of these two kinds.\u00a0 I’m a discovery writer but I’ve decided that I want to provide an outline for my stories going forward.\u00a0 That way if the story decides on its own to deviate from the outline I’ll know it’s meant to be.\u00a0 It’ll be my unconscious mind dope-slapping my conscious mind.\u00a0 And that I’m used to.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

I was just listening to episode 4 of Larry Correia’s podcast on writing.\u00a0 The episode was called “Outlining vs Discovery” and it was exactly what<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_mi_skip_tracking":false,"_exactmetrics_sitenote_active":false,"_exactmetrics_sitenote_note":"","_exactmetrics_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2510,1263],"tags":[76],"class_list":["post-15901","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-literature","category-stuff-that-personally-interests-me-miscellaneous","tag-fiction-writing"],"yoast_head":"\nLarry Correia's WriterDojo Episode 4 - Orion's Cold Fire<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/2021\/09\/09\/larry-correias-writerdojo-episode-4\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Larry Correia's WriterDojo Episode 4 - Orion's Cold Fire\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"I was just listening to episode 4 of Larry Correia’s podcast on writing.\u00a0 The episode was called “Outlining vs Discovery” and it was exactly what\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/2021\/09\/09\/larry-correias-writerdojo-episode-4\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Orion's Cold Fire\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2021-09-09T18:04:20+00:00\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"photog\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:creator\" content=\"@orionscoldfire\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:site\" content=\"@orionscoldfire\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Written by\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"photog\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Est. reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"2 minutes\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\/\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"Article\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/2021\/09\/09\/larry-correias-writerdojo-episode-4\/#article\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/2021\/09\/09\/larry-correias-writerdojo-episode-4\/\"},\"author\":{\"name\":\"photog\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/#\/schema\/person\/d11e80f83f3825ce9fe38a5303eb64d3\"},\"headline\":\"Larry Correia’s WriterDojo Episode 4\",\"datePublished\":\"2021-09-09T18:04:20+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2021-09-09T18:04:20+00:00\",\"mainEntityOfPage\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/2021\/09\/09\/larry-correias-writerdojo-episode-4\/\"},\"wordCount\":333,\"commentCount\":0,\"publisher\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/#organization\"},\"keywords\":[\"fiction writing\"],\"articleSection\":[\"Literature\",\"photog's Corner\"],\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"CommentAction\",\"name\":\"Comment\",\"target\":[\"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/2021\/09\/09\/larry-correias-writerdojo-episode-4\/#respond\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/2021\/09\/09\/larry-correias-writerdojo-episode-4\/\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/2021\/09\/09\/larry-correias-writerdojo-episode-4\/\",\"name\":\"Larry Correia's WriterDojo Episode 4 - Orion's Cold Fire\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/#website\"},\"datePublished\":\"2021-09-09T18:04:20+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2021-09-09T18:04:20+00:00\",\"breadcrumb\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/2021\/09\/09\/larry-correias-writerdojo-episode-4\/#breadcrumb\"},\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"ReadAction\",\"target\":[\"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/2021\/09\/09\/larry-correias-writerdojo-episode-4\/\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"BreadcrumbList\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/2021\/09\/09\/larry-correias-writerdojo-episode-4\/#breadcrumb\",\"itemListElement\":[{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":1,\"name\":\"Home\",\"item\":\"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":2,\"name\":\"Larry Correia’s WriterDojo Episode 4\"}]},{\"@type\":\"WebSite\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/#website\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/\",\"name\":\"Orion's Cold Fire\",\"description\":\"All the Secrets of the Universe and Some Really Important Stuff Too!\",\"publisher\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/#organization\"},\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"SearchAction\",\"target\":{\"@type\":\"EntryPoint\",\"urlTemplate\":\"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/?s={search_term_string}\"},\"query-input\":\"required name=search_term_string\"}],\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\"},{\"@type\":\"Organization\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/#organization\",\"name\":\"Orion's Cold Fire\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/\",\"logo\":{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/#\/schema\/logo\/image\/\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/DSC06141.jpg\",\"contentUrl\":\"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/DSC06141.jpg\",\"width\":4022,\"height\":1419,\"caption\":\"Orion's Cold Fire\"},\"image\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/#\/schema\/logo\/image\/\"},\"sameAs\":[\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/orionscoldfire\"]},{\"@type\":\"Person\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/#\/schema\/person\/d11e80f83f3825ce9fe38a5303eb64d3\",\"name\":\"photog\",\"image\":{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/#\/schema\/person\/image\/\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/photog-image.jpg\",\"contentUrl\":\"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/photog-image.jpg\",\"caption\":\"photog\"},\"url\":\"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/author\/photog\/\"}]}<\/script>\n<!-- \/ Yoast SEO plugin. -->","yoast_head_json":{"title":"Larry Correia's WriterDojo Episode 4 - Orion's Cold Fire","robots":{"index":"index","follow":"follow","max-snippet":"max-snippet:-1","max-image-preview":"max-image-preview:large","max-video-preview":"max-video-preview:-1"},"canonical":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/2021\/09\/09\/larry-correias-writerdojo-episode-4\/","og_locale":"en_US","og_type":"article","og_title":"Larry Correia's WriterDojo Episode 4 - Orion's Cold Fire","og_description":"I was just listening to episode 4 of Larry Correia’s podcast on writing.\u00a0 The episode was called “Outlining vs Discovery” and it was exactly what","og_url":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/2021\/09\/09\/larry-correias-writerdojo-episode-4\/","og_site_name":"Orion's Cold Fire","article_published_time":"2021-09-09T18:04:20+00:00","author":"photog","twitter_card":"summary_large_image","twitter_creator":"@orionscoldfire","twitter_site":"@orionscoldfire","twitter_misc":{"Written by":"photog","Est. reading time":"2 minutes"},"schema":{"@context":"https:\/\/schema.org","@graph":[{"@type":"Article","@id":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/2021\/09\/09\/larry-correias-writerdojo-episode-4\/#article","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/2021\/09\/09\/larry-correias-writerdojo-episode-4\/"},"author":{"name":"photog","@id":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/#\/schema\/person\/d11e80f83f3825ce9fe38a5303eb64d3"},"headline":"Larry Correia’s WriterDojo Episode 4","datePublished":"2021-09-09T18:04:20+00:00","dateModified":"2021-09-09T18:04:20+00:00","mainEntityOfPage":{"@id":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/2021\/09\/09\/larry-correias-writerdojo-episode-4\/"},"wordCount":333,"commentCount":0,"publisher":{"@id":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/#organization"},"keywords":["fiction writing"],"articleSection":["Literature","photog's Corner"],"inLanguage":"en-US","potentialAction":[{"@type":"CommentAction","name":"Comment","target":["https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/2021\/09\/09\/larry-correias-writerdojo-episode-4\/#respond"]}]},{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/2021\/09\/09\/larry-correias-writerdojo-episode-4\/","url":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/2021\/09\/09\/larry-correias-writerdojo-episode-4\/","name":"Larry Correia's WriterDojo Episode 4 - Orion's Cold Fire","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/#website"},"datePublished":"2021-09-09T18:04:20+00:00","dateModified":"2021-09-09T18:04:20+00:00","breadcrumb":{"@id":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/2021\/09\/09\/larry-correias-writerdojo-episode-4\/#breadcrumb"},"inLanguage":"en-US","potentialAction":[{"@type":"ReadAction","target":["https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/2021\/09\/09\/larry-correias-writerdojo-episode-4\/"]}]},{"@type":"BreadcrumbList","@id":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/2021\/09\/09\/larry-correias-writerdojo-episode-4\/#breadcrumb","itemListElement":[{"@type":"ListItem","position":1,"name":"Home","item":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/"},{"@type":"ListItem","position":2,"name":"Larry Correia’s WriterDojo Episode 4"}]},{"@type":"WebSite","@id":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/#website","url":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/","name":"Orion's Cold Fire","description":"All the Secrets of the Universe and Some Really Important Stuff Too!","publisher":{"@id":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/#organization"},"potentialAction":[{"@type":"SearchAction","target":{"@type":"EntryPoint","urlTemplate":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/?s={search_term_string}"},"query-input":"required name=search_term_string"}],"inLanguage":"en-US"},{"@type":"Organization","@id":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/#organization","name":"Orion's Cold Fire","url":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/","logo":{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"en-US","@id":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/#\/schema\/logo\/image\/","url":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/DSC06141.jpg","contentUrl":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/DSC06141.jpg","width":4022,"height":1419,"caption":"Orion's Cold Fire"},"image":{"@id":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/#\/schema\/logo\/image\/"},"sameAs":["https:\/\/twitter.com\/orionscoldfire"]},{"@type":"Person","@id":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/#\/schema\/person\/d11e80f83f3825ce9fe38a5303eb64d3","name":"photog","image":{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"en-US","@id":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/#\/schema\/person\/image\/","url":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/photog-image.jpg","contentUrl":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/photog-image.jpg","caption":"photog"},"url":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/author\/photog\/"}]}},"post_mailing_queue_ids":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15901","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=15901"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15901\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":15902,"href":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15901\/revisions\/15902"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=15901"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=15901"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=15901"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}