{"id":16263,"date":"2021-10-17T15:31:00","date_gmt":"2021-10-17T19:31:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/?p=16263"},"modified":"2021-10-17T15:31:00","modified_gmt":"2021-10-17T19:31:00","slug":"what-will-our-new-nation-look-like","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/2021\/10\/17\/what-will-our-new-nation-look-like\/","title":{"rendered":"What Will Our New Nation Look Like?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Everyone talks about the \u201cTwo Americas.\u201d\u00a0 One of them is well defined.\u00a0 The Progressive America has declared its mission statement.\u00a0 It is the Woke, Anti-White, Globalist Nation.\u00a0 It will continue down that road for the foreseeable future.\u00a0 If we want to see what it will look like in a few years it will look like San Francisco, Portland, Minneapolis, Chicago and Atlanta.\u00a0 It will be a place that pits various grievance groups against white people, men, people who aren\u2019t sexual deviants and probably other groups that haven\u2019t yet been attacked because no one has had a chance to think up a grievance against them.\u00a0 Based on current trends I would guess that the next target will be people who can legitimately pass a course in high school geometry.<\/p>\n<p>So that\u2019s one nation.\u00a0 The other one is ours.\u00a0 A lot of people assume that our nation will essentially be like what America was before the grievance movements started changing things in the 1960\u2019s.\u00a0 That is a possibility but I wouldn\u2019t say it\u2019s the only one or even the most likely outcome.\u00a0 And I won\u2019t pretend that I\u2019m sure how it will turn out but I have been thinking about it lately.\u00a0 I\u2019ll go through my thinking on it.\u00a0 Thinking about it methodically seems the most comprehensive way to avoid missing any cases.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ll start with the most pessimistic scenario, of course.\u00a0 Let\u2019s call this the complete triumph of the Left or the complete collapse of the Right.\u00a0 Whichever angle you take on it, it\u2019s where the Right loses all political battles and essentially disappears from the culture.\u00a0 So, all the old ideas and customs disappear and are completely replaced even in memory with the woke culture.\u00a0 Freedom of speech disappears and individual freedom becomes reduced to which particular sexual deviancy you currently espouse.\u00a0 Basically, it will look like California everywhere.\u00a0 If I\u2019m being honest, I might say that this is one of the likelier possibilities.<\/p>\n<p>Slightly less pessimistic, is the case where people like us become a sort of shunned pariah minority.\u00a0 Sort of the way the Coptic Christians exist in Egypt after the Arabs established Islam as the state religion.\u00a0 They are despised and their place in society is always subject to assault by the authorities and even by the population at large.\u00a0 Everyone knows that if the Copts are persecuted beyond what the law already prescribes it is very doubtful that the perpetrators will suffer heavy consequences.\u00a0 And once again, this is not an unheard-of eventuality.\u00a0 In fact, it\u2019s sort of the status quo in blue states.\u00a0 Think of that wedding baker in Colorado who keeps getting charged by the authorities for following his conscience, even after the Supreme Court has already found in his favor on the facts of the case.\u00a0 Harassment and persecution all the way down.<\/p>\n<p>A third case would be for the Right to prevail in some subset of the United States territory.\u00a0 So, let\u2019s say that the country doesn\u2019t technically break up but the individual states are allowed to legislate social policy according to their beliefs.\u00a0 One way this might work out is for these states to keep the current status quo.\u00a0 Leave all the current laws but enforce the things that the federal government has been neglecting.\u00a0 So, for instance they might enforce immigration laws and protect first and second amendment rights.<\/p>\n<p>But they might decide that they want to roll back many of the things that the federal government and especially the Supreme Court have ordered over the last 50 to 70 years.\u00a0 And there is a whole boat of things that would be covered there.\u00a0 In reverse chronological order that would include, transgender rights, gay marriage, sodomy laws, abortion and affirmative action.\u00a0 And there could be many other changes.\u00a0 Access to welfare could be curtailed or eliminated altogether.\u00a0 Even programs like social security and Medicare and Medicaid might be eliminated.\u00a0 One thing that might be changed is the concept of citizenship based on birth in the territory of the United States.\u00a0 Even the right of citizens of other states immigrating into another state might be questioned.<\/p>\n<p>So, it could be seen how in a place where these types of changes are being considered or even enacted the nature of citizenship and patriotism would be very different.\u00a0 Maybe Texan would become a much more important identifier than American.\u00a0 And I could see regional identity become something important.\u00a0 If several adjacent states coordinated their legal and commercial affairs, they could make a region almost the equivalent of a nation state.\u00a0 I don\u2019t claim to think this option is one of the most likely but I can see how it might be the most beneficial arrangement for our nation.<\/p>\n<p>Another possible outcome but much less likely is the Right essentially wins.\u00a0 We somehow build a big enough coalition to win the legislative battles and make the administrative changes that prevent us from being victimized by the Left.\u00a0 Here we have to assume that the process of coalition building will involve identity groups negotiating quid pro quo arrangements where no one would get everything they wanted.\u00a0 It would mean that this coalition would still be made up of adversarial groups fighting in a zero-sum game and only cooperating in the face of the greater evil that the Left represents to normal people of various ethnicities.\u00a0 This will be a kind of cold civic nationalism where grudging tolerance will be the rule. \u00a0Once again patriotism will not be any part of this society.<\/p>\n<p>I guess the final case is where someway, somehow Americans come to their senses and realize that what they had in the mid-twentieth century was as close to heaven on earth as anything could be and reject leftism and all the harmful and dysfunctional policies that the Left has spread and fostered.\u00a0 Then we would have a country like we used to have.\u00a0 I rate the possibility of this case so close to zero that arrays of supercomputers working on the probability couldn\u2019t find a non-zero decimal place in the whole number.<\/p>\n<p>So, these are the cases I can come up with.\u00a0 Do you know of any other case?\u00a0 Which one do you think will 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