{"id":22344,"date":"2023-02-16T10:59:38","date_gmt":"2023-02-16T15:59:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/?p=22344"},"modified":"2023-02-16T10:59:38","modified_gmt":"2023-02-16T15:59:38","slug":"the-zman-riffs-on-thucydides","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/2023\/02\/16\/the-zman-riffs-on-thucydides\/","title":{"rendered":"The ZMan Riffs on Thucydides"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/thezman.com\/wordpress\/?p=29351#comments\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">This Thursday&#8217;s ZMan post is a comparison of the Sicilian Expedition to the Ukraine War<\/a>.\u00a0 Comparisons of Thucydides&#8217; Athens to America is a perennial favorite on the Right.\u00a0 As the ZMan very carefully adds this is not a perfect analogy.\u00a0 The Sicilian Expedition was a military debacle of horrific proportions.\u00a0 Athens had doubled and tripled down on manning and arming this expedition so that when the defeat occurred there was practically nothing and no one left to continue the war with Sparta.\u00a0 We may have emptied our armory to outfit the Ukrainians but in order to mirror the damage done to the Spartans, it would be necessary for the Americans to lose several million soldiers in the field.<\/p>\n<p>Despite the inevitable differences it is amazing how apt the comparison of ancient Athens is to present day America.\u00a0 Even the current woke culture has its analog in the influence of the Sophists and their undermining of conservative norms.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s always interesting to look at the classics.\u00a0 But who would Biden represent?\u00a0 Certainly not Pericles.\u00a0 Even the despised Cleon proved a much more capable war time leader than balloon boy Biden.\u00a0 Maybe some obscure pederast in one of Aristophanes&#8217; plays would do.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, a fun read.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This Thursday&#8217;s ZMan post is a comparison of the Sicilian Expedition to the Ukraine War.\u00a0 Comparisons of Thucydides&#8217; Athens to America is a perennial favorite<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_mi_skip_tracking":false,"_exactmetrics_sitenote_active":false,"_exactmetrics_sitenote_note":"","_exactmetrics_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[855,3884,343,284,886],"class_list":["post-22344","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-current-events","tag-peloponnesian-war","tag-sicilian-expedition","tag-thezman-com","tag-thucydides","tag-zman"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v20.4 - 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