{"id":23501,"date":"2023-04-27T18:21:29","date_gmt":"2023-04-27T22:21:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/?p=23501"},"modified":"2023-04-27T18:21:29","modified_gmt":"2023-04-27T22:21:29","slug":"guest-contributor-tomd-27apr2023-comments-on-feasibility-of-an-electric-navy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/2023\/04\/27\/guest-contributor-tomd-27apr2023-comments-on-feasibility-of-an-electric-navy\/","title":{"rendered":"Guest Contributor &#8211; TomD &#8211; 27APR2023 &#8211; Comments on Feasibility of an &#8220;Electric&#8221; Navy"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>&#8220;This essay is in response to this post&#8221; <a href=\"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/2023\/04\/27\/want-to-know-how-out-of-touch-with-reality-the-greens-are\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Want to Know How Out of Touch With Reality the Greens Are?<\/a>&#8221;\u00a0 where there was a congressional review of the idea of all military vehicles being electric.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>photog&#8221;\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s worse. Just heard some of the testimony and the idiot is talking about an all electric Navy by 2030.<\/p>\n<p>Thar is so far beyond current technology as to be beyond fantasy. The current peak of battery tech resides in a Ford pickup and contains around 110 kW hours. This is approximately the equivalent of 140 HP hours or 14 HP x 10 hours or some equivalent multiple. The Ford pickups have proven worthless for towing any load more than a few miles.<\/p>\n<p>The current US Destroyer, the Arliegh Burke class, is powered by 4 gas turbines with a combined out put of 78,000 kW, or about 105,000 HP. That\u2019s just propulsion, in addition there are generators on board totaling 21,000kW for misc electric power. So we\u2019re talking about right at 100,000 kW of power generation onboard.<\/p>\n<p>If they get into wartime mode, I\u2019d expect they would need the great bulk of that. A Ford PU battery would power that for around 3 seconds, 1000 Ford PU batteries would push it for an hour.<\/p>\n<p>But a deep water war vessel has to be self reliant for weeks. Even just patrolling at cruise speed, the power requirements must be in the 20,000 kW range. Your hypothetical 1000 Ford batteries would power it for 5 hours then.<\/p>\n<p>And you may think you\u2019ve heard of what happens in a battery fire.<\/p>\n<p>Lets say that battery tech has increased 50X, allowing an Arleigh Burke to do it\u2019s normal 5100 mile cruise at 20 knots and you pull into some South American port on your last couple of kW and looking to recharge 4,400 megawatts hours. And that powered by windmills that aren\u2019t working right now. Yeah, right.<\/p>\n<p>Charging at sea? How\u2019s that going to work? The replenishment boat is running on batteries too.<\/p>\n<p>We are no longer a serious nation. We\u2019ve collapsed into a silliness and stupidity forced on us by, what?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;This essay is in response to this post&#8221; Want to Know How Out of Touch With Reality the Greens Are?&#8221;\u00a0 where there was a congressional<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_mi_skip_tracking":false,"_exactmetrics_sitenote_active":false,"_exactmetrics_sitenote_note":"","_exactmetrics_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1489],"tags":[2108,1596,636,1731],"class_list":["post-23501","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-guest-contributors","tag-green-new-deal","tag-guest-contributors","tag-military","tag-tomd"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v20.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Guest Contributor - TomD - 27APR2023 - Comments on Feasibility of an &quot;Electric&quot; 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