{"id":26621,"date":"2023-12-04T13:23:09","date_gmt":"2023-12-04T18:23:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/?p=26621"},"modified":"2023-12-04T13:23:09","modified_gmt":"2023-12-04T18:23:09","slug":"guest-contributor-arthurincali-04dec2023-civic-nationalist-to-dissident","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/2023\/12\/04\/guest-contributor-arthurincali-04dec2023-civic-nationalist-to-dissident\/","title":{"rendered":"Guest Contributor &#8211; ArthurinCali &#8211; 04DEC2023 &#8211; Civic Nationalist to Dissident"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I used to believe in civic nationalism and the idea of the global populace buying a ticket to the (American) story and ideals. Funnily enough, around the time I held these beliefs was 30+ years ago in an America that had a firmly entrenched demographic majority of Heritage Americans. (Roughly 80% IIRC)<\/p>\n<p>See, that\u2019s kinda of the paradox of the idea of a successful nation operating under civic nationalism in that you still need a majority ethnic population who puts their full faith in the mythos of said nation\u2019s founding, institutions, and ideals. Once it hits a certain fracturing of population and becomes majority-minority, with no one group asserting dominance \u2013 this gives rise to overt tribal tendencies. Diversity is not a strength. If it were, nations like Japan and China would be importing as many diverse groups as possible to get an edge on the global economic competition.<\/p>\n<p>Still, if we lived in a reality based sane and serious nation that spoke the truth on differences a la Lee Kuan Yew\u2019s Singapore, it could have worked. This would require media, academia and gov\u2019t to cease the relentless attack on the historical figures actions and events that led to the creation of the USA. No, not celebrate outright the dark corners of a nation\u2019s history (that all nations have, Western and non-Western), but understand that each apology, every condescending remark merely removes another brick of the foundation of American mythos and her founding.<\/p>\n<p>This is part of how I found myself admitting more and more that I am a part of the Dissident Right. I will vote for Trump-not as a faithful belief that he will be our Red Caesar but more as a wrench into the leviathan machine that hates me and my people.<\/p>\n<p><em>\u201cSince all nations lay claim to a unique place in history and to certain boundaries, all national identities are exclusionary. In that sense, all nations are ethnic nations [\u2026] Brubaker elaborates on this, claiming that there are two different ways of mapping culture onto the ethnic-civic distinction. Ethnic nationalism may be interpreted narrowly, as involving an emphasis on descent. In this case, Brubaker argues, there is very little ethnic nationalism around, since on this view an emphasis on common culture has to be coded as a species of civic nationalism. If, however, ethnic nationalism is interpreted broadly, as ethnocultural, while civic nationalism is interpreted narrowly, as involving a cultural conception of citizenship, the problem is the opposite: \u2018civic nationalism gets defined out of existence, and virtually all nationalisms would be coded as ethnic or cultural\u2019. Even the paradigmatic cases of civic nationalism, France and America, would cease to count as civic nationalism, since they have a crucial cultural component.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p>\u2014\u200aUmut \u00d6zk\u0131r\u0131ml\u0131, Contemporary Debates on Nationalism: A Critical Introduction, pp.24-5<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I used to believe in civic nationalism and the idea of the global populace buying a ticket to the (American) story and ideals. 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