{"id":27295,"date":"2024-01-30T05:00:43","date_gmt":"2024-01-30T10:00:43","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/?p=27295"},"modified":"2024-01-30T11:27:37","modified_gmt":"2024-01-30T16:27:37","slug":"after-the-revolution-part-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/2024\/01\/30\/after-the-revolution-part-1\/","title":{"rendered":"After the Revolution \u2013 Part 1"},"content":{"rendered":"

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One of the ZMan\u2019s favorite phrases during his podcasts seems to be \u201cafter the revolution.\u201d\u00a0 This is usually followed by a comment about some benighted leftist finding out how the guillotine works, up close and personal.\u00a0 Ouch!<\/p>\n

But what seems to be a lot less easy to find is any thoughts about what would be going on after the revolution.\u00a0 And maybe this is because the more hard-line folks on the Right have truly apocalyptic dreams for the world if things go their own way and it would be unwise to discuss the specifics in the open.\u00a0 But really it\u2019s because the Right is not a monolithic movement but a coalition of those who want to be free of the Left, there really isn\u2019t one vision of what \u201cafter the revolution\u201d would look like.<\/p>\n

But I thought it might be interesting to think a little bit about what some of these visions might be and also what I myself would like \u201cafter the revolution\u201d to look like.<\/p>\n

Let\u2019s start with the wildest visions of the really hard-core cases, something that would closely resemble what the people who made that new movie \u201cCivil War\u201d imagine people on the Right want as the future.<\/p>\n

So, in this extreme vision of post-America the country would be divided into a bunch of independent countries that each is based on the regional ethnic make-up and political predilections.\u00a0 The Northeast and Mid-Atlantic (including Virginia and maybe North Carolina) would be the rump USA nation.\u00a0 It would be run by the same elite that currently runs the whole country.\u00a0 I think it would also include the Great Lakes states, the Pacific northwest (with at least a part of California) and Hawaii.\u00a0 Then the South would be its own country.\u00a0 The Midwest would be another.\u00a0 Some people think that Texas and the southwest (with or without all or part of California) would be another.\u00a0 Maybe Alaska joins up with Canada.<\/p>\n

In this setup whole ethnic populations would be swapped between these areas at least partially by force.\u00a0 What the forms of government for these successor states would be is a subject of wild speculation by those who desire this drastic fate for the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave.\u00a0 But if such a division of the country and its people occurred it\u2019s possible to imagine multiple forms of government.\u00a0 Perhaps this time around, the Puritans will decide on something more explicitly oligarchic.\u00a0 Maybe the Midwest will continue on with a representative democracy.\u00a0 Maybe the South will get a king and the Southwest will decide to join up with Mexico.\u00a0 Personally, this particular scenario sounds quite bleak to me.\u00a0 But I hesitate to say that it is completely impossible.<\/p>\n

But I think that reaching this scenario will involve maximal violence and destruction.\u00a0 Millions of people will die and economic and social upheaval will devastate the whole continent.\u00a0 And in this weakened condition, attack from external threats doesn\u2019t seem far-fetched.<\/p>\n

The next in line from most extreme to least would be a 50\/50 split of the country between blue and red states.\u00a0 Blue America would be similar to the Puritan nation from above.\u00a0 Let\u2019s say New England, Mid-Atlantic states with Virginia and North Carolina, Great Lakes states also including Michigan and Illinois, the whole West Coast, Nevada, New Mexico, possibly Arizona and Hawaii.\u00a0 Everything else would be Red America.<\/p>\n

As far as political systems, Blue America would be California on steroids.\u00a0 No fossil fuels, no red meat, lots of cricket burgers and all transgender all the time.\u00a0 Red America might be like what we had in this country before the 1960s.\u00a0 Maybe it will include an amendment that allows states to secede at will.\u00a0 I assume that both nations would be highly antagonistic and constantly sniping at each other about all the compromises that would have to be enacted because of the divorce.\u00a0 They\u2019d even be fighting over who would keep the name USA.\u00a0 But since Amerigo Vespucci was part of the whole European colonial plot maybe the blue states can find some obscure native American (there\u2019s that name again) term for the real estate.<\/p>\n

I could actually see how this arrangement would be an improvement over our present situation.\u00a0 Getting to this state doesn\u2019t seem to be something that will happen easily or without copious violence.\u00a0 So even this less drastic alternative isn\u2019t my favorite scenario.\u00a0 I\u2019m certain there would be open war before the divorce occurred.<\/p>\n

Tomorrow I\u2019ll discuss some other scenarios including the one I favor.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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