{"id":27448,"date":"2024-02-10T05:00:37","date_gmt":"2024-02-10T10:00:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/?p=27448"},"modified":"2024-02-09T00:08:17","modified_gmt":"2024-02-09T05:08:17","slug":"free-association-revisited","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/2024\/02\/10\/free-association-revisited\/","title":{"rendered":"Free Association Revisited"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A few days ago, I talked about open and closed associations as they related to how people in the Dissident Right felt about the various efforts by people like Chris Rufo to pry back our rights from a government that has embraced anti-constitutional policies like affirmative action and DEI.<\/p>\n<p>And what the dissidents say is that the government shouldn\u2019t be allowed to even ask who you associate with at all.\u00a0 In other words, the Constitution doesn\u2019t say we have to like other people.\u00a0 And they\u2019re right.\u00a0 That is the nature of the Bill of Rights.\u00a0 They are positive rights of individuals, not negative rights.<\/p>\n<p>But what occurred to me today is that as the Left\u2019s destruction of societal norms has advanced, the need for freedom of association has become much more important.\u00a0 Fifty or a hundred years ago even among disparate groups in our country people still believed in the majority of beliefs that governed their behaviors.\u00a0 Whether you were black or white or rich or poor, people still believed in concepts like honest, dishonest; male, female; smart, stupid; legal, illegal; mine, yours.\u00a0 So, you had a basis for communication and there could be the expectation that some mutually acceptable rules of public behavior could exist.\u00a0 We could live under the same laws and for the most part avoid having to shoot each other in the streets.<\/p>\n<p>This is no longer the case.<\/p>\n<p>And as these concepts have disappeared it becomes less and less possible for each of us to associate randomly with everyone without worrying about disaster or at least great disadvantage.\u00a0 For instance, if I live close to a large city and the nearest drugstore is a quarter of a mile away but inside a high crime district and the next nearest one is twenty miles away in a safe suburb I might decide for the sake of safety and peace of mind that I now drive twenty miles out of the way.<\/p>\n<p>Parenthetically, I\u2019ve recently heard community activists in these high crime areas calling drug stores and other retail businesses racist because they are now shutting down their branches in these areas.\u00a0 Apparently, the new standard of wholesale theft in these neighborhoods that has been embraced by the urban prosecutors brings out the secret racist in these corporate executives for some unexplained reason.<\/p>\n<p>And extending this idea consider people with children trying to find public schools that don\u2019t have teachers and administrators who will try to groom their kids for various types of sexual deviancy.\u00a0 Or even white men who are just tired of working at companies that force them to endure various struggle sessions about sex and race relations.<\/p>\n<p>And even though I\u2019m just an old-fashioned white man who is married to a woman and has children and grandchildren and was born when all of that was completely normal and in fact the majority case in America, I can imagine that if you were someone who wasn\u2019t white, wasn\u2019t male and wasn\u2019t straight that you might want to have a venue where whatever your point of view was on things, that point of view would be the orthodoxy.\u00a0 So, if you were a black lesbian living in St Louis, you\u2019d really like to have a bar where all the black lesbians could get together and complain about the white lesbians and the black gay men.\u00a0 I think they should be able to have such a place.\u00a0 But in fact, they currently do.\u00a0 Lots of them.<\/p>\n<p>By the same logic, the Dissident White guys should have a place like that for themselves.\u00a0 And by the same logic nobody should think there\u2019s any reason why either of those places shouldn\u2019t exist.\u00a0 After all, would the black lesbians want to hear the opinions of the old white guys?\u00a0 Probably not.\u00a0 Would the old white guys want to hear the opinions of the black lesbians?\u00a0 Probably not.<\/p>\n<p>Now if there were a black lesbian and an old dissident white guy who were both chess players and they happened to meet at a chess tournament and enjoyed discussing the art and science of chess and got along, well, there would be plenty of opportunity for the two of them to socialize at chess tournaments and lots of other places.\u00a0 But chances are they wouldn\u2019t invite each other to their favorite bars because they wouldn\u2019t feel welcome.\u00a0 And chances are the white dissident wouldn\u2019t want to meet in any of the black neighborhoods in St Louis because he probably wants to live a while longer.<\/p>\n<p>But the point is that we can\u2019t pretend anymore that we\u2019re a single society that can all sit down at the same table and enjoy the same things.\u00a0 We\u2019ve normalized very strange lifestyles and beliefs.\u00a0 We\u2019ve become different groups.\u00a0 We like and dislike different things.\u00a0 In some cases, these likes and dislikes are diametrically opposed.\u00a0 And because of this all we do by forcing these people together is create anger and pain.\u00a0 And this goes for groups on the Left.\u00a0 Currently, transwomen are attacking feminists for not accepting them as women.\u00a0 In fact, transwomen are even attacking lesbians for not wanting to have sexual relations with them.\u00a0 So here you have different segments of the so-called LGBTQ community at war with each other. \u00a0The only hope for maintaining the larger heterogeneous society is allowing free association to provide space for the disparate groups to enjoy their lives and lifestyles as freely as possible in this polarized mix.<\/p>\n<p>And finally, if you are a member of the hated white straight male group then building your own associations isn\u2019t just advantageous.\u00a0 It\u2019s the only way to avoid extinction.\u00a0 The elite institutions are trying to get rid of you.\u00a0 Organizing is the only way to survive.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A few days ago, I talked about open and closed associations as they related to how people in the Dissident Right felt about the 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