{"id":9733,"date":"2020-01-23T20:33:04","date_gmt":"2020-01-24T01:33:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/?p=9733"},"modified":"2020-01-23T20:33:04","modified_gmt":"2020-01-24T01:33:04","slug":"here-is-an-example-of-confusion-about-what-conservatism-is","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/orionscoldfire.com\/index.php\/2020\/01\/23\/here-is-an-example-of-confusion-about-what-conservatism-is\/","title":{"rendered":"Here is an Example of Confusion About What Conservatism Is"},"content":{"rendered":"

In his essay titled, \u201cCan Conservatism Be Conserved<\/a>?\u201d Spencer Klavan questions whether a new \u201cconservative coalition\u201d made up of actual conservatives together with various non-conservatives who have been alienated or even attacked by the \u201cWoke\u201d progressives can form a coherent movement.\u00a0 But then he concedes that most of these \u201cnew conservatives\u201d would reject the title.\u00a0 Klavan explains,<\/p>\n

\u201cAn inescapably important reason for this is that many members of the new conservative coalition (especially those who don\u2019t identify as conservative) reject the label because they hold views, and practice ways of life, which the historic conservatism of only a generation ago deemed deeply distasteful, even unconscionable.\u00a0 Weinstein and Boghossian are atheists. Murray, Doyle, and Straka are openly gay. White is transgendered, and Birchill and Bindel are lifelong feminists.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n

Apparently, the only thing all these people have in common is they don\u2019t want to be de-platformed by the \u201cWoke\u201d hall monitors.\u00a0 Maybe that means they believe in free speech.\u00a0 But maybe they only want it if it suits their speech.\u00a0 After all, feminists and the various alphabet people seem plenty willing to call anything they don\u2019t like hate speech and get these people de-platformed or worse.<\/p>\n

At its core I think this outreach to non-conservatives is just the latest example of liberals trying to act as gatekeepers and redefine conservatism into something acceptable to their friends on the Left.\u00a0 It\u2019s kind of like the ecumenism that was supposed to let people of different faiths coexist but ends up by turning Christian Churches into cultural centers devoid of any connection at all to Christ because it might be offensive to the non-Christians.<\/p>\n

In my opinion it is a mirage to think that embracing these various leftists as some kind of a partnership will do any good at all.\u00a0 On the contrary, all it will involve is attempts to disavow any actual conservatives who won\u2019t paper over their rejection of the various dysfunctional and dangerous lifestyles or worldviews that these so-called conservative allies espouse.\u00a0 A similar thing was done to the paleocons by the neocons a few decades ago.\u00a0 That was how we ended up in the mess we are in now.\u00a0 Trump was able to, single-handedly, drag those deplorables back into the fold.\u00a0 The last thing we want to do is give \u201cnew conservatives\u201d another bite at the apple.<\/p>\n

So, in answer to the title of Mr. Klavan\u2019s article, yes conservatism can be conserved but not by accepting non-conservative ideas and the people who live by them.\u00a0 Let the progressives, the liberals, the moral relativists, the feminists and the alphabet people battle with their even crazier \u201cwoke\u201d brethren (or whatever gender bent category they prefer) on their own.\u00a0 We have nothing in common with them and nothing to gain by engaging with them.\u00a0 I would much prefer to engage with the fringe groups to the right of us and see if we can find some common ground with them.\u00a0 Their ideas are more extreme than ours but they at least do not reject the values that we embrace.\u00a0 In many cases I think they have let pessimism radicalize their thinking and pushed them to conclude that only radical solutions to our problems exist.\u00a0 I think the last few years have shown that progress can be made if the right people get involved.\u00a0 If actual conservatives have a part in running the country better outcomes are possible.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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