This is not a rhetorical question. I am involved in a thorough search for a new locale where the state and local government won’t go out of their way to violate my first and second amendment rights on a daily basis. After the events of the last week or so I am more motivated than ever to come up with an exit strategy. Let’s call it “Escape from New England.”
The three states I’ve inhabited in the northeast over the course of my relatively long life have taken fiendish delight in singling out my race and sex for punishment and humiliation. Although I am still tied by bonds of employment and family to this part of the country, I foresee that imminent retirement and the maturing of the next generation will allow me to escape. In fact it is partly for the sake of the grandchildren that I want to relocate to a place where their chances for happiness will be better. Camera Girl is a reluctant participant due to her grandchildren but I feel confident that I can provide her with plenty of access to the kids through visits and trips.
Back in November of 2018 I first started considering the move. I looked at a list of the ten most conservative states. They were Wyoming, North Dakota, Mississippi, Oklahoma, Alabama, Arkansas, Idaho, Louisiana, Montana, Utah and Tennessee. Based on climate I pared it down to Oklahoma, Arkansas, Idaho, Utah and Tennessee. But this is just rudimentary sorting. Living in an already crappy climate like New England I want to base my decision on more important things than climate. If it turned out that Wyoming was a conservative paradise, I’d bite the bullet and pack up my snow plow and move there in a heartbeat.
In that spirit I am opening up consideration for any location. Texas and Arizona are rumored to be turning purple. But maybe that is an exaggeration. I’ll listen to what people living in these areas have to say. I want to cast as wide a net as possible and then use the best information available to sift through the results.
So, help me out all you fellow deplorables. Where is the promised land? And just as valuable where isn’t it? Even in red states I’m sure there are plenty of places where the liberals have got a stranglehold like in Austin TX. The last thing I want to do is travel half way across the country and end up in the same situation I’m in now. Feel free to warn me off anyplace like that.
I’ve put a poll with a list of the reddest states. I’ve also added a choice other if your choice isn’t there. then just leave it in the comments. And even if you pick one of the states I’ve listed feel free to elaborate in the comments section. I’m critically interested in real information from our side of the fence. As you are aware the stuff that Google elevates in its searches aren’t exactly accurate for our side of the aisle. If I think that this poll provides enough information I’ll organize it and maybe it can be a resource for others caught behind enemy lines in the deplorable hating blue states.
Update:
Thanks to all that read and participated in the poll and comments. I have a short update on the results with some thoughts about the results.
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Idaho is where all the old, tough LAPD officers retire.
And other cops. I’m in N Idaho, and I was a San Fran Bay Area cop. I went through the police academy with a guy who went LAPD. You’d be surprised, but there really are a lot of us CA cops who flee the Democrat destroyed state of CA and resettle in Idaho looking for fellow conservative minded, sane, rational people. Idaho fits the bill. There are also a ton of military folks here. So glad I came here.
SW MO: Fled PRoCT 12 years ago and never looked back. Rural, peaceful for the most part, gun friendly, low property taxes and affordable housing. We moved to get ready for retirement from one of the biggest, small socialist holes in the 48! The government was eating up everything we had back then. Since we moved it has only got worse and they still keep voting in the same bunch of losers making the same empty promises only to “evolve” once they get reelected proving, yet again, you cannot fix stupid!
Zulu95, I definitely know what you’re talking about with CT. CT, RI and MA are the belly of the beast. I’ll be sure to look into SW MO. Thanks.
My vote goes to Idaho, but I’m biased, as I fled to Idaho with my family from CA and never looked back. I’ve met nothing and no one but accepting, wonderful, intelligent, conservative minded folks with a good work ethic, entrepreneurial spirit, and a mind to the constitution and rule of law. It’s a freakin paradise to me. I’ve lived in CA, HI, NV, WA, OR and OH. Idaho is, in my opinion, the best (and safest) place to raise a family. And as to your question if who won’t bow to looters, you have your answer. We heard that… Read more »
Josh, that certainly sounds encouraging to me. What’s the best way for me to learn more about the state? Things that someone looking to move would want to know like housing costs, jobs, climate? Just use the internet or something more specific to the state?
Take a look at Smith Lake in Alabama. It’s one of the cleanest lakes in the country with the watershed in a national forest. The three countries that encompass it are very conservative yet friendly. The surrounding area is forest or farm and ranch country. There is easy access to world class medical centers and urban offerings. We can still leave our doors unlocked… it makes it easier for the neighbors to leave fresh vegetables or baked goods if you’re not home. I hope this helps and good luck wherever you go.
Thanks John. I’ll definitely look into that locale.
You certainly sold me on it.
South Dakota could be considered: a reliable red state, with the exception of Sioux Falls and the university towns, plus no state income, corporate or estate tax. Look at how Governor Noem handled the corona virus matter and stood up for constitutional rights. Conservative farmers and ranchers live here, especially “west river.” Highly ranked on economic freedom, less so on “personal freedom” which I suppose means more heavily Christian. Cold winters (although not so much as N Dakota, or as windy as Wyoming), and Rapid City area for some reason tends to be milder. Black Hills are a welcome respite… Read more »
Peter thanks for adding South Dakota to my list.
Or…..you could stay and defend your home.
I am a soon-to-retire IT professional, born and raised in MN. I have pretty much given up on MN – I no longer believe staying to defend/fight the idiocy of the leftists will do any good. Outstate MN is still fairly conservative, but we just can’t overcome the numbers in the Twin Cities. Sometimes, resistance IS futile. Sometimes, areas have to hit rock bottom before they can start to improve – best to let them get to rock bottom quicker so Darwinism can do it’s job.
Somalia.
Motopic I understnd the sentiment but if I did defend my home my government here would say I was the criminal and they would teach me a very thorough lesson about who runs these states. If I had resources I might be able to shield my family from all the propaganda and lies. But the Left controls the schools, the government, the police, the news and to put it in a word, everything. I want to be in a place where all those things are on my side.
Yeah, could be a tough call.
Oklahoma is always under rated, cost of living is very reasonable, friendly people, good colleges, and we have a great Governor Kevin Stitt. Second Amendment rights are very protected and encouraged. We do have tornadoes but it’s very rare that they “sneak” up on a community, we are well warned. We have a low unemployment after the Plandemic and any “rioting” was squashed. Try the Sooner State.
Lesley, my better half, Camera Girl, is afraid of twisters but I am working very hard to help her overcome her phobia. OK is definitely on my radar.
I checked Idaho although almost every state on the list has it’s points. Formally, I would have said that one should stay where one lives and fight to make it better. Now I say that we should concentrate between the Appalachians and the East Slope of the Rockies and carve off the Left Coast and the New England area.
I limit it to west of the Mississippi and east of the Rockies but that may be too far west. I’m also trying to come up with a plan that has the Corps of Engineers divert the Missouri river to east of KC and the Mississippi west of STL so they move out of MO.
Somehow the heartland needs to have access to an ocean. If we cede the coasts then we only have the southern states and some of them are turning purple rapidly. Any solutions?
Thanks for the great information. Which city in Idaho has the best climate (similar to NC?
Go anywhere but Tennessee, we’ve got enough Democrat refugees.
Although a purple state , living in North Eastern Nevada Has become my Nirvana. No income taxes, sanctuary county for second amendment, mostly conservative folks who are tolerant of different ideas. Spent 32 years in military stationed across the US in mainly democrat run states (15 years in California). Idaho has become Democrat stronghold from Washington/Oregon/California. Close enough to Salt Lake/Twin Falls to do Coscto runs, but far enough away to discourage rif raf. Tons of outdoor activities, 4 seasons but none extreme
Ranch Guy, thanks for the info. I’ve only been to LV in Nevada. But I’ll look into NE NV.
You have missed the boat, the state that wont tolerate looting is Wv..Mountaineers are always free..The genl. population wont tolerate it
Hey Daniel, thanks to you I’m adding it to the list.
Its true
The people of Wyoming look out for each other and there are probably 5x more guns than there are people in the state. Redder than Texas these days. Very little crime. Tons to do outdoors year round. Oh, and no emissions testing on your vehicle. That perk always hooks ‘em!
Phil, I’d say on a per capita basis Wyoming is best represented state in the poll.
Check out Fredericksburg TX
Thanks Belia for the recommendation on Fredericksburg. Texas has the most numerous representation on the poll which makes sense for such a vast state. I always was impressed with the friendliness of the Texans when I visited for business. But of course compared to folks in the northeast they would be.
Why is SOUTH DAKOTA NOT on this list? DUH!
Colin, the original list was something I found on line that said it was the most conservative states in the union. I can’t confirm the accuracy of the list so I’m looking for feedback this way. Luckily, South Dakota has its advocates including you.
Actually, the place you want isn’t a STATE. it is a CITY or AREA of CONSERVATISM… The STATE you are looking for is FLORIDA. Florida has NO INCOME TAX and GREAT WEATHER.. However, CENTRAL AND SOUTH FLORIDA ARE ALL LIBERAL… AVOID CENTRAL (ORLANDO) AND SOUTH (MIAMI, FT LAUDERDALE, WEST PALM, ETC) FLORIDA LIKE THE PLAGUE… If you want to live in a CONSERVATIVE AREA, with GREAT WEATHER, and NO STATE INCOME TAXES, YOU NEED TO MOVE TO NORTHEAST FLORIDA, WHICH IS JACKSONVILLE… Just look at a map… IN ALL OF NORTHEAST FLORIDA, AND SOUTH GEORGIA, “AN EXTREMELY CONSERVATIVE AREA”, JACKSONVILLE… Read more »
Hi Illurion, I’ve been waiting for someone from Florida to comment. Thanks for the specific recommendation.
I am a Wyoming native and lived here most of my life. As a kid I lived in NM, CO and MT. As an adult I moved to PA, but when the property taxes put me in the Green Zone in Baghdad I sent my wife and email that I had to move back to the mountains. I had family still in Wyoming so we moved and I have not looked back.
Stay away from Teton County 1 you many not be able to afford it and 2 it is the only blue county in the state.
Thanks for the heads up Grendel.
People who chose Texas must not have been to Austin, Houston or Dallas.
The big Texas cities are all run by liberals. However, the suburbs are usually not. In the Austin area, Westlake Hills, Bee Cave and Lakeway couldn’t be nicer.
I live just south of Fort Worth. Rural. We have 10 acres. Prepping since since ‘93. I would recommend Texas except for the property taxes. It’s good that there’s no income tax, but hell I don’t work anymore! I would vote for OK. Good people, property is not too expensive, and pretty.
An aside: depending on the November election, should Biden win or we lose the senate, all bets are off. I’ll be seriously considering Central or South America. Western civilization will be toast.
Elemenopea, I hope that won’t be necessary.
Yes, doing my research as well. One important aspect to consider for myself is the healthcare. As we get older we might need treatments for ailments. Idaho looks great but how good is the healthcare?
Yes, Dusty, many factors to take into consideration. But for me I’ll trade a whole lot of everything to get the hell outta the northeast.
As a followup, if access to good HEALTHCARE is a concern in your retirement, then, again, JACKSONVILLE FLORIDA is where you would be fine. Jacksonville has more Hospitals per capita than any other City in Florida and the Southeast. World renouned hospitals: MAYO CLINIC, MD ANDERSON CANCER CENTER, WOLFSON CHILDRENS HOSPITAL, UF HEALTH TEACHING HOSPITAL, and both BAPTIST, SAINT VINCENTS, AND HUMANA multi-campus regional hospital campus centers. The UF HEATH TEACHING HOSPITAL also contains a PROTON THERAPY CENTER, which is one of THREE PROTON machines in the city. Jacksonville has more PROTON THERAPY machines than any… Read more »
Thanks Illurion Gray. Sure healthcare is always important, especially as you get older which we all hopefully do.
UAB is easily accessible from Smith Lake and is. Cutting-edge medical facility.
“ Orthopedics, Cancer and Gastroenterology/GI Surgery were listed as high-performing. Six UAB programs moved up in the rankings over 2017, with the biggest jumps seen in Ear, Nose and Throat and in Cardiology.”
Sorry about that… UAB Hospital is again ranked the No. 1 hospital in Alabama by U.S. News & World Report. Four medical specialties are ranked in the top 20 in the nation, and six more are ranked in the top 50. Three other specialties are listed as “high-performing” in the 2018-2019 Best Hospitals rankings released today. With ten specialties ranked in the nation’s top 50, UAB topped several peer institutions, including the University of North Carolina and Emory University, which had five and four ranked specialties respectively. The specialties ranked in the top 20 in the nation are Rheumatology (10),… Read more »
Thanks. That’s good information to add to my survey and for others who come after.
As a Texas resident, I am forced to agree that Texas is slowly leaning left. Rural Texas is still a bastion of conservative ideals, but the ever increasing population of the major metropolitan areas is slowly dominating the less populated rural areas.
South Carolina!
Howdy, Tyler. Duly noted.
I escaped from yuppie-scum Fairfield County, CT six years ago and settled in the Idaho Panhandle. My only regret is that I didn’t make my escape forty years ago. I am still, after six years, sometimes stunned by the kindness, generosity and just fundamental decency of total strangers. Plus, the streets are clean, there’s no graffiti and I haven’t heard one word of any foreign language in public. Regarding the Antifa from Spokane: I was in Coeur d’Alene on Sherman Ave two evenings. I carried my AR-15 the first night and my .45-70 1886 lever action the other night –… Read more »
Hey PvtCharlieSlate, it is incredibly encouraging to know there is a place outside the grip of the Leftists. And I also wish I went much farther when I left NYC in 1987. I should have left the Northeast altogether.
Try Australia
From what I’ve heard, it’s worse there than here.