Plato of Athens, A Life in Philosophy by Robin Waterfield – A Book Review

When I was an undergraduate, I participated in an intensive summer program in Classical Greek language and one of the sections of the course was to read one of Plato’s dialogs (Ion) and sections from the Republic.  And that was interesting because after having read a bunch of Plato in translation I always wondered if maybe it lost something in translation.  It seemed that the stuff Socrates said was a bunch of nonsense.  Maybe if read in the original it would seem less silly.  But that summer I was disabused of that hope.  Nothing was lost in translation.  It was goofy stuff.

All of Socrates intellectual opponents in these dialogs are straw men who are set up to allow Plato to go through his dialectical arguments proving that no one knows anything but Socrates and therefore the world should be ruled by philosopher-kings that have been trained by Plato and his fellow philosophers at the Academy.

Okay, I’m pretty dismissive of the father of Western philosophy.  But there really is no other position I can see.  But by the same token he is also the man who attracted Aristotle to Athens and thereby brought him to the attention of the world.  So, building the first western university did have many positive effects.  After all Aristotle was Alexander the Great’s tutor and Alexander is responsible for building Alexandria in Egypt and Alexandria became a great center for learning and science under Ptolemy; one of Alexander’s successors.  So, good for you Plato.

Having never systematically studied Plato’s life I read this book to see what incites might be hidden there.  Unfortunately, there is not much esoteric knowledge that a scholar can add to the corpus of Plato’s work.  Most of what’s there is the common legend and what’s added by conjecture doesn’t really matter to anyone but possibly a specialist who wants to speculate whether the Republic was written in which range of years and before or after some other dialog such as Gorgias.

What I did enjoy was the sections of the book that reviewed the history of Athens and other parts of the Hellenic world in Plato’s time.  Plato lived during the end of the Peloponnesian War and the defeat of Athens.  He lived under the reign of the Thirty Tyrants.  In fact, several of his family members belonged to that regime which he eventually denounced.  Of course, the following regime that restored democracy to Athens also condemned his mentor and friend Socrates to death so Plato’s political and partisan feelings were early on buffeted by harsh reality.  But the facts of the times are interesting and useful for consideration.  Plato’s later dabbling with practical politics when he attempted to convert the notorious tyrant Dionysus II of Syracuse into a philosopher-king is almost farcically unrealistic.  The fallout from this attempt should have been enough to single-handedly destroy Plato’s reputation as a practical philosopher but time heals all wounds.

I guess I’m of two minds as to how to recommend this book.  If someone is interested in Plato’s work and his philosophical ideas then this book will be of interest.  If someone is interested in the very important time period after the end of the Peloponnesian War until right before Alexander the Great there is some interesting insights here.  But unless both apply, I think most readers will have to pick and choose through the sections of the book.

For instance, I find Plato’s Theory of Forms utter nonsense.  The idea that there is an ideal form of a tree or a shoemaker or a door seems to me the working of the mind of a doofus.  Even the idea of the ideal of a geometric shape like a sphere or a cube seems an unnecessary addition to reality.  So, the section on this doctrine holds no interest for me.  And in fact, I find most of Plato’s philosophical doctrines not very useful for human life.  But that’s how I’ve judged most of philosophy.  Although Aristotle seemed to have had a more practical view of the world and the things in it.  Maybe I should have looked for a new biography of Aristotle.  Oh well.

photog’s Republic – Postscript

Thanks to everyone who read and/or commented.  I guess I just wanted to think out loud about what would represent a pretty good place to live in.  Not a paradise, not a hell but something in the middle for the people in the middle.  Not too good, not too bad.  Not too smart, not too stupid.  Not too rich, not too poor.  Just reasonably somewhere in the middle.

I’m aware that it’s impossible and people gravitate to some dysfunctional equilibrium where the winners and losers sort themselves into an aristocracy and an underclass but it must be the American Catholic school background that traps me into a fantasy where “We all just get along.”

Well, no harm done.  It cheered me a good bit to express that thought experiment.

As Plato found out tyrants aren’t philosopher-kings.  It was Machiavelli who formulated the saying, “the ends always justify the means—no matter how cruel, calculating or immoral those means might be.”  We’ll see.

photog’s Republic – Part 5

Unlike my predecessor Plato, I do not have unlimited access to papyrus scrolls so I have to be careful not to get too carried away with my rant.  So let me wrap this up.  I have highlighted some of the steps I think will be needed to make Goodenoughia a better place to live than 2024 America.  And not being a political scientist, I’m probably ignoring vast areas of reform that must be considered; the currency, laws on business monopoly, government revenue, the government’s role in research and development of new technologies, and on and on and on.

But what I see as the most crucial change in the way the country is run lies in the “mission statement.”  What we need to be striving for is to focus on increasing and strengthening the “middle class.”  That is where thought and research need to be expended.  What are the things that the states and the federal government can do to grow the proportion of the population that is functional and thriving.  I’m not sure what the philosophy of this is called.  It’s not exactly Utilitarianism.  Let’s make up a name and call it photogian middle-classicalism.  I want to see as many families as possible raising their kids successfully and enjoying a good life.

Maybe we’ll find that the efficiency we’ve gained by automation is anathema to this middle-class maximization.  If we can prove that’s the case then I’d propose abandoning it, even prohibiting it.  Maybe a world where we employed wagons and horses would be better than one with automobiles.  Who knows?  But we should find out.  That’s what political science should be about, increasing human happiness.  Because currently we have the opposite.  The whole adult and adolescent population and now even small children are glued to a small screen being narcotized by pixels and sounds that really have no value (except of course this content!).

So, that’s what I think.  What I imagine will be found is that the only way for government not to devolve back to the oligarchy that we currently “enjoy” is for there to be a few brakes on wealth.  I never thought I’d say this but maybe having a handful of people controlling 80% of the disposable income in the country is a really bad situation.  Maybe it should be 70% or, heaven help us, 65%!

And I’ve also begun to believe that it is necessary to have some degree of coercion to force regular people to take part in their own local government.  Possibly offices will be distributed by lottery, sort of like how jury selection is handled.  If your number comes up, you’ll have to be on the town zoning board or the budget committee.  Sure, we’ll make allowances and deferments but we can’t have only retirees and women in charge of communities.  It can be like what goes on for the members of the National Guard and Reserve.  Businesses will have to make allowances and forcing citizens to know how their towns are run will become normalized.  Make some kind of incentives to get people to attend the town meetings.  Give away scratch tickets or something.  Who knows, people might start finding out who their neighbors are.  They might even find out they don’t hate some of them.

I’ll cut it short here.  Leave your comments on what you disagree with and what I left out of Goodenoughia that needs to be in it to make it goodenoughia for you.

O damn Glaucon!  With all this talk we’ve missed the festival of the Thracian goddess Bendis.  I guess we’ll have to stream it on Netflix.

 

Update:

War Pig

Wagons and horses are not ideal. Believe me, we have a lot of Amish in my county and the pollution they deposit on the highways makes keeping your car or truck free from funk quite difficult. Every few hundred yards will be a scattered pile of horse apples. Would you want to have to house, feed, water and medicate a couple of horses who produce copious amounts of manure to be shoveled, collected, then placed on a steaming, odiferous compost pile that draws flies and their maggots as well as various rodents and large members of the order coleoptera?

 

Master Diver

In the 1890s, the horses in New York City produced over 2.5 million pounds of manure and sixty thousand gallons of urine every day. A wonderful source of rat, insect and airborne diseases.

 

photog

I’m seeing two votes against horsepower.  Duly noted.  But that was just a for instance.  The biggest changes to our world have occurred in the last few years and have been spurred by the indoctrination of our children to despise the civilization that produced them and all the things they take for granted.  Maybe the analysis says the change needed is the selection of teachers and school administrators.  Someone needs to start thinking about the problems that are now endemic in our society.  Women aren’t having children.  That way lies collapse.

 

TomD

And then, there is the baked in Achilles heel that ultimately destabilizes all democratic governments: When the population learns they can vote themselves “largess”. Elections soon devolve to a competition for politicians promising the most goodies.

Economic instability follows.

photog

In reply to TomD

Tom, eliminating the income tax and deficit spending might help to hold back some of this largesse.

 

Glenn W

I used to think that the wealthy in this country recognized that a healthy middle class was good for business, literally that a strong middle class is a “win-win” for everyone. I have now come to the conclusion that I was terribly naive. The uber wealthy want both money and power.

Once a person hits a certain level of wealth they no longer need more money. Sure, a bigger villa in Tuscany or a larger yacht may be nice but does it really matter? What’s an ambitious person to do? It looks like the answer is power. Sure you own a lot of nice stuff but look how many serfs I have.

I remember a few years back, Tucker Carlson was in a discussion (maybe with Ben Shapiro?) where he said that driverless trucks should be banned. He wanted the ban because so many American workers with only high school diplomas work as truck drivers that much of the middle class would be impoverished. I agree with Carlson on that. We need policies that encourage a strong middle class even if it hurts economic efficiency.

Economic efficiency is another thing I have become very leery of. I always liked Milton Friedman and at one time he had me convinced of the righteousness of completely free trade with no tariffs or import quotas. His argument went something like this: if American manufacturing goes to cheaper overseas manufacturers those products will still be sold in the U.S. The dollars generated from those sales will ultimately need to be spent in the U.S. thereby encouraging formation of new, more efficient businesses here. How did that work out? Well, all the manufacturing from the Midwest was relocated overseas and the profits generated did come back to the U.S. as bond sales. The Midwest was sucked dry but New York city (where the bond trading takes place) profited handsomely. Thanks but no thanks. Milton Friedman was wrong.

I also agree about encouraging direct participation in our own governance. I’m not sure what the solution is but I’m willing to hear anyone’s ides on the topic.

photog’s Republic – Part 4

I said at the end of the third installment that we need to continue with the clean-up program. A lot will have to be fixed to get us back to a sane place to live.  Ain’t that the truth!

And the epicenters of this dysfunction are the urban centers.  Think of the states that are typically considered the red states and would probably be included in Goodenoughia; Missouri, Texas, Louisiana, Indiana, etc.  Some of the large cities in these states are war zones.  There are permanent populations that do not work and live off of welfare and crime of various types and are basically illiterate and anti-social.  These areas are the headquarters of criminal organizations that sell narcotics and engage in human trafficking of various sorts.  And since the George Floyd riots the police have abdicated responsibility for protecting the remaining portions of the urban population from these criminal elements.

This must be corrected.

First and foremost, the authority of the police must be reestablished.  The governors and legislatures of the effected states must produce laws that allow emergency powers to round up the worst and most dangerous criminals and take them permanently off the streets.  After that “broken windows” policing must be reestablished.  The ghettos need to be as safe as the business district.  All of this will require a very large prison system.  That is just the price of being a society.  And it makes sense for the prison system be as technologically advanced as possible to eliminate as much of the prison violence as is practical.  One thing that might help is restoring capital punishment for repeat violent offenders.  It would be a kindness to everyone.

So, there’s the band aid.  Now to attack the underlying problem.  Welfare does not need to be reformed.  It needs to be eliminated.  The idea is if you don’t work you don’t eat.  Certainly, this will have to be eased into but the idea is to force useless people to become useful.  This will require a lot of creative thinking on the part of municipal authorities.  But considering the number of pot holes currently existing in urban streets, road repair comes to mind.  But however it is done, we have to end the idea that we pay people to sit around on their streets shooting each other and playing basketball.  Those that prove that they can only rob and kill will be fed into the prison system.  Everyone else will adapt.

And next in the program is school.  School for the urban poor will also have to adapt.  For the cooperative, intelligent cohort it can be the normal public school; reading, writing, arithmetic.  For the unintelligent, it can be some kind of vocational training.  Even learning to use a broom and a mop is a viable skill that has some value.  For the uncooperative there is the road to prison with a last chance in a reform school type environment.  But what is uppermost is that the kids who actually can and want to learn are separated from the cretins and criminals.

The fact that our cities have been allowed to become war zones is the clearest proof that those in charge are unfit to serve.  Any city that doesn’t quickly adopt an improvement plan like the one I’ve outlined must be taken over by the state and forced into line.  Rudy Giuliani in the late 1990s proved unmistakably that empowering the police to combat crime, head on, works.  New York City’s subsequent relapse into chaos is clear proof that the correct political orientation must also be there.  In Goodenoughia any city administrations that allow anarchy and crime to go unchecked will be impeached by the Governor and replaced by a commission to oversee the administration of law and order.  And this can become a permanent arrangement if the locals refuse to maintain order.

I consider fixing the cities the emergency action needed to restore order.  Next up I’ll think of what other changes will turn Goodenoughia into a photog’s paradise.

 

Updates

Glenn W

I completely agree with everything you wrote. All hail photog! I would like to add another related item. A major driver, if not THE major driver, of these societies disintegrating is the breakdown of the family. This is another thing that will take some time to reverse but most of the feminist “reforms” that have discouraged two parent families need to be dismantled. To have well adjusted children the norm must be two parent families.

The thing that I think will be very difficult to do is to re-establish trust in the police in these nearly lawless areas. There are people I trust (not BLM types!) that have told stories about some really lousy things local police have done. Truth be told, I have a neighbor that is a policeman who has anger management issues. I do not feel more safe having him so close to my home. I really and truly hope I don’t get on his bad side.

You are correct though, law enforcement is a basic function of government and it needs to be reestablished everywhere immediately.

Glenn, I know that there are some very bad cops and I have very close relatives who are very negative on the police because they feel that policing often violates protected civil liberties.  Nevertheless trying to run a large city without the police doesn’t work.  Living in a city requires certain losses of freedom by definition.

What should be easier to define is behavior that requires the perpetrators to be incarcerated.  Theft, assault, reckless endangerment; all of these trample on someone else’s rights and require someone to apply force to stop their commission.

Things like helmet cams make it easier for cops to be monitored.  It will never be a perfect system but in places like New York and Los Angeles we are learning what it means to have no police force on duty.  It doesn’t work very well.

photog’s Republic – Part 3

I said at the end of the second installment that we need to figure out a way to rein in the federal government.  And that is no mean task.  We are the victims of the wildly successful growth of the American Empire.  Our culture, technology and industry have transformed the world.  We have created whole industries that allow us to produce weapons of staggering power and destructiveness.  We have created an information infrastructure that allows us to control the news that the whole world receives.  We’ve even convinced the entire developed world, with a few exceptions, to believe in things that couldn’t possibly be true and to punish any of their citizens who dare to deny these lies.  We’re even disassembling a lot of the industrial infrastructure that initially created our dominance.  And now we’re even going down the road of eliminating our own citizens just because they’ve become politically inconvenient.

It would be laughably stupid to claim that displacing this establishment would be easy.  Eisenhower warned us about it.  Kennedy may have taken a bullet defying it.  Most presidents have kowtowed to it.  And Trump got poleaxed for even trying to slow down the forever wars that this shadow government stokes.

But that is the only way to upend their rule.  The money they feed to the defense contractors and all the other players in these global games fuels their power.  Cutting off that funding would bring the whole thing toppling down.  That is why every Republican in Washington bends a knee to them and why Donald Trump is in court right now preparing to be railroaded into prison.

But remember, we’re talking about Goodenoughia.  We don’t have to conquer that monster.  We just have to keep it at arms length.  Leftwingistan is where that monster now lives.  We just have to keep it from reaching out and dragging us back in.  I would say that the first most important point will be maintaining some part of the nuclear arsenal in our hands and promise the people in Washington that mutually assured destruction exists between both sides of the divide in Central North America.  After that we can set up our government along more moderate lines than what exists now.

First and foremost, the foreign policy of Goodenoughia will be neutral and anti-expansionist.  I think that Switzerland might be a good model for our foreign policy.  I think we should eliminate the federal income tax and fund the federal government with appropriations provided by the states in accordance with a budget agreed to by the senators that have been appointed by each state to serve.  I think the House of Representatives should exist to provide the people with a check on the activities of the executive branch.  And that branch should be kept in check by keeping its budget severely anemic.

I would eliminate the FBI.  I would eliminate the CIA.  The military should be quite small and professional.  In time of war a military leader would be appointed by the Senate and given the powers to marshal the resources needed to put the country on a war footing.  And the House would be the body that declared the beginning and end of war.

There would be no barrier to a state seceding.  Groups of states would be able to enter into limited enterprises like road building and financing projects and setting up policies that couldn’t find approval in the federal government.  Also a four fifths vote in the House of Representatives could vote to eject a state from the Union.

The Bill of Rights (and the Bill of Wrongs) would be unalterable within the framework of the laws.  Only the dissolution of the Union would allow for such changes.  And the right to bear arms would be unchallengeable anywhere within the Union.  The police would just have to work with it.

So there you go.  Have at it.  Next up I’ll continue with the clean-up program. A lot will have to be fixed to get us back to a sane place to live.

Updates:

ArthurinCali

Excellent steps to getting us back to being a real nation again and not just a global economic zone.

 

Milo Mindbender

“The military should be quite small and professional”
The original intent was to have a small cadre dedicated to maintaining the sinews of war, and to act as trainers for the new entries if there became a time we had to spool up for defense. We now have a semi professional military class that is scorned by our “betters”, and only useful for advancing their power and career.

 

War Pig

Unfortunately, as much as I dislike spooks generally, we do need some form of CIA, along with the NSA and NRO. We need to keep agents all over the world so that a finger on the pulse of a possible opponent can become a hand around the throat if necessary.

The problem with the most general form of isolationism is that it is only reactionary, and in these times, waiting to react can be too damn late. We have to be able to fight on almost no notice with the troops and equipment and weapons on hand. There will be no time to ramp up production as in WWII.

Also, given the chance, I always prefer to make the opponent support war on his own ground, not ours. So I’ll fight or send troops, money and machines to oppose the dastards as far from our shores as possible. Our keeping at least one, and usually more, generations ahead in weaponry, tactics and equipment, including cyber, has kept the world rather stable since Korea. You may look around and say; “Stable? You’re kidding, right?” I am not kidding. Sure there are some regional catfights going on and a genocide attempt or two in places like Rwanda, but overall things had been quite stable until Putin got uppity and the Iranians backed the wrong players. Do NOT annoy the Israelis by raping and murdering hundreds of their women and children. Yet even with those two blunders, American (and Israeli) intelligence, reconnaissance and military technology are keeping a lid on things, if only a loose lid. Hamas and Iran have both been surprised at the depth of Israeli penetration into their plans, organization and personnel. Putin has been stymied so far by the technology, intelligence and tactics the US and NATO have been supplying to Ukraine. The weakness of Ukraine is manpower. They may run out of men to fight. Worn down by Russian war crimes of targeting civilians and infrastructure such as targeting hospitals and the like.

While we suffered a political defeat in Vietnam and Afghanistan, both the enemy and the rest of the world knows we cannot be defeated militarily. That was the genius of General Schwarzkopf. Go all out, balls to the wall, and win the damn war before the politicians have the chance to muck it up. Barring nuclear weapons deployment, one US corps could roll up Ukraine and be in Moscow in less than two weeks. All Russia’s aircraft would be destroyed, their fleet sunk, tanks turned into scrap. Putin is not stupid. He knows that, which is why he has been careful not to trigger Article 5 of the NATO charter by doing more than some occasional teasing of Poland, and giving a very wide berth to Romania, where over 3,000 troops of the 101st Airborne/Air Assault have been relocated.

 

Glenn W

In reply to War Pig.
I agree with much of what you said but, to be honest, I do lean isolationist. I certainly agree that we should be able to defend American interests (or the interests of Goodenoughia) but I would be fairly restrictive in defining the national interest.

I really don’t think we should be the world’s police force. I told a good friend of mine a while back that we need to call the legions home and he disagreed with me (you may as well). He felt there are a lot of bad people out there that need killing. That is undoubtedly true but do we really need to be killing people on most every continent in the world? How do we benefit from this?

 

Glenn W

Once again I think there is much food for thought in this installment of your Republic. I think right now the U.S. states have the ability to call a constitutional convention by a two-thirds vote (see this article).

As far as states being able to secede at will I think the idea might work if the states were always to act in good faith. However, not all states will always act in good faith. It is easy for me to imagine states using the secession option as a force multiplier and, in the end, to cause a tremendous amount of instability.

photog:

In reply to Glenn.
Glenn, in defense of secession, I’ll say that this scenario is contingent that we’ve already had the bust-up of the USA. At that point we will have failed to bridge our differences and I would think everyone will have become leery of tying themselves together too tightly going forward. If some time in the future even Leftwingistan sees the error in their ways and wants to patch up the Union it’s possible it could be done but I guarantee that after what we’ve seen many would prefer an escape hatch.

 

Glenn W

In reply to photog.

Hi photog,

I don’t disagree and I acknowledge you make some very good points. I also admit that I have an emotional attachment to what has been and don’t want to see it disappear. An emotional attachment does not necessarily mean an irrational attachment. Even if the Union had acceded to all the South’s demands and left Ft Sumter before any shots were fired there was still going to be war in the west.

I know we’re talking about Goodenoughia here but James Lindsay had an interesting article titled “National Divorce is National Suicide” which has some good points but is wrong on other points. For example, he can stay in a blue state and sacrifice his family’s safety so we don’t become more polarized.

I readily admit that there may be no good choices. I am enjoying your series so far, thank you!

photog:

I’m glad you’re enjoying it too.  Why should Plato have had all the fun?  Plus thought experiments are intellectually stimulating.  Put aside reality and look at the possibilities.  In Goodenoughia I’ve shed the most extreme partisans of the far left and the far right and I can try to imagine how the people in the middle can try to muddle along based on common sense and a little bit of tolerance.  Not too much mind you,  Just enough not to have to throw the well meaning people overboard over skin color but not enough to allow us to be guilted into being ashamed of who we are.  Good enough.

 

War Pig

In reply to photog.
The spies are necessary and have been in use since before the Roman Legions and the Huns. You keep them in line by a strong President and a watchful congress who are not afraid of mass firings and even prosecutions. I don’t like THIS particular CIA. We need one, but the one we have now needs to be severely trimmed and reshaped.

Know who began the downfall of it all? Smiling Jimmy Carter. His edict and bullying thru legislation never to use “human rights abusers” as paid informants. It pretty much demolished our HUMINT capabilities and sowed mistrust thereafter. In fact, Carter’s decree led directly to 9/11. Who the heck did he think we should be paying for information on terrorists, Mother Theresa?

 

photog

in reply to War Pig

Prosecutions are definitely already in order.  But we get nothing.  The Intel agencies just close ranks and declare that the info is too sensitive for the Congress and the President.  If we need them we need a whole new bunch and we’ll have to start by firing and then prosecuting the whole bunch of them.

 

War Pig

In reply to photog

Didn’t say it would be easy. The CIA cannot refuse the President and the senate. If they try, President can just fire them and demand access. As chief of the executive branch, CinC of the military and of the intelligence services he can override any of them. Now, the intel services can misdirect by omission. If the President and Senate do not know certain documents exist, they cannot demand them. But if the President orders the Director of the CIA to bring him documents a thru z, unredacted, the Director must comply. Else he is guilty of a first degree felony, at the least.

 

photog

In reply to War Pig

They don’t seem worried about felonies anymore.  They just get a convenient Obama appointed judge to drop the charges and move on.  We’re in a bad spot.

photog’s Republic – Part 2

So here I am playing Plato in drawing up my Republic.  I have no philosopher kings.  All I have is the experience of where our country went wrong.

The first order of business is analyzing this calamity.

The current theories about why everything fell apart can be broken up into a few schools of thought.  The most extreme diagnosis is that the Enlightenment is the source of our problem.  The idea is that changing the focus of human thought from God to the individual is the root of all the problems we are experiencing.  Now I don’t want to go through all of this theory but basically, it’s saying that eliminating God from the human world eventually leads to pathological selfishness that destroys human society.

Maybe that’s true but I’m not about to bring us back to the 1300’s where most of us would be serfs working in an agricultural field for whichever landlord ruled the county.  Instead let’s look at the basic problems that have erupted over the last century or so.

The first thing that has to go is identity politics.  In Goodenoughia we’re all Goodenoughians and any hyphenated Goodenoughians would just be too many letters to manage so we’re banning that.  If you have any grudges against anyone because of race color or creed keep them to yourself because the government doesn’t want to know about them.  And in fact, if you say you object to how your people are treated in Goodenoughia you will be given a hearty handshake and a one-way bus ticket to Leftwingistan.

And if you find your personal pronouns or your desire to dress in drag are disrespected you will be sent (by bus) where these idiosyncrasies are embraced and celebrated.  So, a win/win!  In general, the government will spend its time and energy encouraging things that enhance the stability and social cohesion of the population.  Policies will be established that tend to strengthen the middle class.  From the top, industries that provide employment will be discouraged from sending jobs overseas by tariffs and incentives.  From the bottom there will be direct incentives for young people to get married and have children.  Married couples will be given tax breaks and school vouchers to encourage family building.  And there will be a complete abandonment of any government programs that advantage women over men in school admissions or employment.  Women will no longer be considered a protected class.

And in fact, there won’t be any protected classes.  Everybody will have to find their own friends without the government doing it for them.  And right there most of our problems would be solved.  I guess we could add a section to the Constitution to outlaw the idea of special privilege but it’s really already there.  All we might have to do is add a death penalty to any government officials who try to sneak any in.

But for the next installment we’ll talk about what changes have to be made to the government to keep us from being persecuted by our own government again.

 

Updates:

Nostradumbass

So…It seems Leftwingistan has a “religion” (a creed if you will) based on leftwingism. If Goodenoughia does not allow me to air my grudges against certain creeds, my prodigies will be uninformed of the perversion of language and art that takes place in Leftwingistan. Moreover, they may be lulled into allowing illegal Leftwingistanian migrant “newcomers” to overrun our borders. God save Goodenoughia.

 

Chemist

Good start. I like it.

 

Chemist

In reply to Nostradumass.
I’m pretty sure that photog will get around to education. Not to steal his thunder, but I expect that schools will be required to teach the true history of Goodenoughia – that it is a good place and a place worth defending and preserving.
One of the problems with the US today is that we have taught the last generations that the US is an evil place: Born in colonization and built on slavery and that “Original sin” can never be washed away.

 

Nostradumbass

In reply to Chemist.
The Problem with the US today is that it really is an evil place.

 

TomD

A/the major killer of employment in the US is the maze of laws too numerous to count and too complicated to fathom, all of which have one main result: make it too expensive and difficult to employee Americans.

The ADA, family leave act, the 10’s of thousands of laws mandating this and that.

I listen to talk radio as I travel around and hear a common ad from an HR outfit. One of the ads goes “One of my employees never shows up when he’s supposed to. What do I do?” Employment law has become so insanely non intuitive that the most obvious situation on earth requires the input of a lawyer.

SEVERELY limit the legislative capability of government. All laws have a 5-year sunset term after which, unless the proponents of the law can demonstrate the financial and results oriented metrics demonstrate the efficacy of the law to a neutral panel, it’s gone. And 5 years later, do it again.

Term Limits!!!!!!!

Severe penalties ruthlessly applied for corrupt politicians. The corruption police not subject to the politicians and themselves strictly term limited.

photog:

Tom, the good thing about starting over means you can keep what works and jettison the rest.  All you need is a wise editor.  Luckily we can be those arbiters.  And the best way to keep things lean is to limit the budget they have to work with.  No income tax should definitely help.  That’s on tomorrow’s post.

 

Glenn W

Hyphenated Goodenoughians are what the Founders called Faction and they considered it to be a major threat to the Republic.It appears they tried to suppress faction in the early days of the Republic but that faded away as they died off.

James Madison acknowledged that parties were inevitable. He did advocate ways to combat the formation of parties which surprised me a bit (probably because I’ve spent too much time around Libertarians):

1. By establishing a political equality among all.

2. By withholding unnecessary opportunities from a few, to increase the inequality of property, by an immoderate, and especially unmerited, accumulation of riches.

3.By the silent operation of laws, which, without violating the rights of property, reduce extreme wealth towards a state of mediocrity, and raise extreme indigence towards a state of comfort.

4.By abstaining from measures which operate differently on different interests, and particularly such as favor one interest at the expense of another….

If this is not the language of reason, it is that of republicanism.

photog

Glenn, I’ve of late changed my mind about campaign money.  I think the campaigns should be funded by the government and levelled so that it’s as equal as possible.  How that will work I don’t know but the current system is an abomination and adds to the corruption of our government.

photog’s Republic – Part 1

I was having a discussion with a friend recently and we were talking about the Dissident Right.  Now I’m using that term in a restrictive sense.  Casually speaking, anyone who would like to see Mitch McConnell retire is considered a dissident in Washington.  But I guess specifically I mean people for whom the only solution to the present state of the country is setting up separate ethnostates for the various ethnicities and races.  Basically, folks who have made up their minds that, “We all can’t get along.”

And after our discussion it got me thinking about just how big a range there is in the opinions of non-leftists.  If tomorrow the Left magically disappeared what would happen on the Right?  Let’s say that the much-anticipated civil war was avoided by an amicable divorce where each state voted to go left or right.  So, the Left Coast and the Northeast all the way down to DC and the Great Lakes and a few other odds and ends all form the happy People’s Republic of Leftwingistan.  And the folks that didn’t like the way their states voted on both sides were given generous relocation packages and allowed to move to the other side.  So now each side is only one thing.  Then what would our side do?

So here we have the dissident right and they want to be free.  They don’t like these people over here or those people over there.  Let’s be measured and say they’d only be happy in a state where everyone was descended from northern Europeans.  Okay fine.  They are convinced that genetic pedigree will determine the character of the government and the culture of a society.  Then maybe they should have their own experiment.  And let’s say they could all live in Kansas or Nebraska or the Mountain West or pick a place.  Is that what they’d want?  Maybe.  And what kind of laws would they want?  I assume immigration into their state would be among the most important laws because maintaining that ethnic specificity wouldn’t happen automatically.  So possibly this “state” would have to be a separate country.  But my people were from Southern Europe.  From the dissidents’ point of view, we’re just some mutts or other and don’t belong in their thing.  Okay, that’s fine.  That choice is not for me.  I’ll wish them well and wave them goodbye.

So right off the bat I can see that even without the Left we’d still be divided.  Continuing my thought experiment, what about what’s left of the population?  What are we looking at?  We’ve removed the Left and all those who either believe in what they believe in or think they’ll get a better deal with them.  And the Dissident Right have their paradise.  That leaves us with either the people who believe in the American proposition or who know that life in Leftwingistan will turn into a chaotic hell and are going along with us for the ride.  The people making up this third group are a pretty motley crew.  But let’s see what they could do to make their “Union more perfect.”

Let’s assume that what’s left is in disarray.  The whole thing is a bit of a dumpster fire and a solution is needed to re-establish this republic.  In the past, in places like Athens or Sparta, when the state was in disarray and they needed to fix it, they’d go to a “Sage.”  A Lycurgus or Solon would step in and write new laws that could re-found the state and balance out the inequities and fix the problems.  There would usually be a debt forgiveness and a tax holiday to start things off on a happy note.  But the new foundation tried to learn from the lessons of the past and correct them.  And when the Athenian Democracy crashed and burned at the end of the Peloponnesian War Plato wrote a thought experiment about founding a new state in his dialog “The Republic.”  And because of who Plato was, needless to say, this was a pretty abysmal roadmap for setting up a state from a practical point of view.  Really effective philosopher-kings have always been in very short supply when you need them.

But, be that as it may, I will attempt to soldier on and take a swat at it.  I, photog will lay down the foundation for a new nation that I will provisionally call “Goodenoughia.”  A better name may occur to me later.  And this is how the game will be played.  Anyone can call me out in the comments section where it seems I’m going wrong and I’ll give him equal time by adding those comments to the post as updates.  Hopefully by the end of the exercise we will have come up with a rebooted America that only has to be put into effect by following our brilliant roadmap.  Of course, when Plato attempted to have the tyrant, Dionysius II of Syracuse apply his Republic as a blueprint for his rule, I believe Plato almost got his head chopped off.  But those were less enlightened times and I’m sure I will be treated in a more humane way today because of …, reasons.  So here we go.  Oh boy!

Update:

TomD

“Assuming that Goodenoughia will have democratic DNA be it representative or direct, I think that voter status should be limited and prized with significant requirements for entry.

Problem being that the bulk of the people would tend to think that the required characteristics for voter status should whatever characteristics that they themselves possess.”

photog

Tom, I agree with both those statements.  I think a minor change would be to increase the age to 25.  Most eighteen-year-olds lack maturity when it comes to politics.  I’d also say remove women from the franchise.  Now that will cause an explosion.

War Pig

Follow Heinlein in Starship Troopers.

 

Glenn W

I’m looking forward to reading your approach. Who knows, you might be the next Solon!

Everyone seems to be throwing ideas around about how to fix our broken society. I suppose there is a kind of broad agreement on the dissident right that any system that involves participation in government by the governed is a bad idea. I personally don’t like the idea of being changed from a citizen to a subject.

On the Christian side of things we had The Benedict Option a few years ago. I read it and was completely underwhelmed.Now there is The Boniface Option which I have no intention of reading. I’m going to wait until someone publishes the John Locke Option before buying another one of those books. I think I’m going to be waiting a long time.

photog

I have to admit I’m having fun writing my edicts.  It feels good to be king (or Solon as the case may be).  Of course I’m not addressing how we get to the bust up of this unhappy disunion but I’ll let this thought experiment play out first.