Results and Conclusions From the Poll in Fold, Flee or Fight

So here is what people said in the poll.

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Almost a third of people said that more than twenty million people will flee the blue states for the red states.  That seems reasonable to me.  Another quarter of people said the Republicans will do absolutely nothing.  And about 40% of people said the red states will do something about the federal government’s unconstitutional overreach.  And among that 40%, 15% thought it would include secession.

Somewhat comfortingly, more people thought the red states would take action than thought that nothing at all will be done.

It’s very difficult to make any hard and fast conclusions from this poll other than that there seems to be a sense that the red states are where we hope to see some pushback against the Dems.  What it says to me personally is I should be looking for a new place to live in red state America as soon as its possible.  And if I’m smart, I should start lining something up even before I think I’m ready to go.  Things might change quickly at some point and “want” could turn to “need” really fast.

My own votes were for Flee (2) and Fight (2).  I guess I’m more pessimistic than some folks out there.  And actually, seeing that there are plenty of people more hopeful than myself makes me feel more hopeful than I was before the poll.

Thanks to everyone who participated.  This poll has clarified some of my thinking.  I am now convinced that the nothing good will happen at the national level.  I see the federal government going after our freedoms and punishing us every way they can.  The best hope we have of improving our lives in this country is finding a state or states that are willing to defy Washington and make their own policy on everything from social welfare to the Bill of Rights.

There is something very liberating about making a decision.  Concluding that the Right will not be able to pry the United States loose from the Woke Cult is a depressing realization.  But eliminating the indecision from my thinking makes the whole situation a net positive.  It is much worse to waste time and resources on a lost cause.

So, farewell Land of the Free and Home of the Brave.  Hello Brave New World that has such people in it.  Many horrible things await me and much sorrow but at least I’m heading in the right direction.  And as the Chinese Philosopher Lao Tse said, “A journey of a thousand li starts with a single step.”  Knowing which way to go is the beginning of that journey.

From now on I will give less attention to what the likes of Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi and John Roberts are doing and saying and more attention to what Ron DeSantis and Kristi Noem are doing and saying.  Of course, there’s bound to be overlap but I won’t agonize about threats to the filibuster or Supreme Court packing or unconstitutional laws.  I assume that all that stuff will happen.  I’ll be more interested in how the free states react to those kinds of things.  Will someone stand up to this abuse.  That’s what I’m interested in.


Update – 20MAR2021

Looks like fight is almost at 50% now.



Fold, Flee or Fight – What’s Your Guess?

One of my acquaintances has recently told me that no red state governor or legislature will ever push back against the federal government and nullify unconstitutional laws.  I told him we’d see soon enough.  Dopey Joe and the Democrat machine have been grinding out laws and executive orders at a blinding clip.  It’s only a matter of time before they rescind the first and second amendments in their entirety.  At that point we’ll have the usual dance around the Supreme Court reviewing and throwing the laws back to a lower court to re-review.  If at that point no state takes action on the laws then my acquaintance will have been shown to be correct.

Now this acquaintance’s opinion centers on the idea that all of the unconstitutional outrages are all a smokescreen meant to distract us from the power and money grab that the Left is engaged in.  And because the federal government has a stranglehold on the federal funding no state will do anything that threatens that funding.

This argument is supposed to be a comfort to me.  The fact that the Democrats don’t really believe in systemic racism and tranny bathroom rights is supposed to make me feel better.  I guess I’m supposed to be comforted that since I’m an intelligent person I can just ignore the madness that has descended on the world because the perpetrators don’t actually believe in it.  I pointed out that he would soon be fleeing his current city because the descending madness had rendered the schools that his children attended useless and dangerous and neutralized the police’s ability to provide safety for him and his family.

Alright, so he’s had his say.  I want to ask the folks out there what their heads and guts tell them is going to happen.  I’ll provide a list of possible scenarios for you to choose from.  If I miss one leave it in the comments or as an e-mail.  I’ll allow that you can choose two items because the Flee choices can occur along with either fold or fight options in place.


  • Fold – The Right will do nothing at all. Red states will talk and do nothing else.  Democrats will gut the Constitution and raid our 401 K money to pay for slavery reparations.  Freedom ends.
  • Fight (1) – Red states will declare sanctuary areas where 1st and 2nd amendment rights will trump federal law. State courts will challenge federal laws and push back within the tradition of state actions against federal overreach.  But there will not be open nullification of unconstitutional laws.
  • Fight (2) – All of the actions in Fight (1) but also some red states will nullify some federal laws openly. They’ll pick a fight over something blatant and dig in their heels.
  • Fight (3) – All of the actions in Fight (1) and Fight (2) but also a group of red states will coordinate their efforts to form a united front. They will pass identical legislation and share information and even coordinate on strategies that resist the efforts of the federal government.
  • Fight (4) – Some number of states secede. This leads to a cold civil war where monetary, commercial and even military incidents occur but open combat does not become continuous.  This is followed by a treaty that brings the seceding states back under their terms.
  • Fight (5) – Same as fight (4) but the states return without gaining the terms they wanted.
  • Fight (6) – Same as Fight (4) but the states gain permanent independence.
  • Flee (1) – This is actually an additional action that can occur during many of the choices above. In this choice a significant population of Americans (> 10 million) emigrates to other countries to escape the conditions here.
  • Flee (2) – This is actually an additional action that can occur during many of the choices above. In this choice a significant population of Americans (> 20 million ) leave the blue states and end up in the red states.


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28FEB2021 – Reading the Tea Leaves

I just finished listening to President Trump’s speech at CPAC.  It was a good enough speech but I’m dissatisfied.  I guess I understand what he’s hoping to do.  He’s trying to adapt the Republican Party to achieve the things he wants to accomplish.  And he did single out the anti-Trump members of Congress that voted against him in the impeachment farce.  I see him preparing to endorse primary challengers to these rats.  That’s fine.  I get that.  But I was looking for more.  I wanted to hear about action that could be taken before the 2022 elections.  That’s two years away.  That’s a lifetime of suffering away.  That’s too long to hang on hoping for election results.

I was talking to some friends today.  And I asked a few of them about how they think things are going to shake out.  Some said they hoped for the mid-terms to take back the Congress.  Some felt as I do that election fraud probably meant we weren’t going to be winning anymore elections.  I asked them what they planned to do to about living in the slave states we are currently trapped in.  Some want to move to free states like Florida and Texas.  Then I asked them what would they do if the federal government started to squeeze the free states with gun grabs and hate speech law suits.  They didn’t know.  And finally, I asked them if any of them thought that any of the free states would make a stand and push back against the feds, maybe even secede.  Some said no, some said maybe.

It all sounds a little discouraging.  But I’m actually encouraged.  Think about how people would have responded to these questions even four years ago.  The insane things that have happened in the last few years have been impossible to pass off as normal.  The COVID lockdown, the BLM/Antifa rioting and its acceptance by Democrats at the Federal, state and local levels.  The anti-white hatred being fostered by Fortune 500 corporations and the Silicon Valley companies practicing censorship of individuals and even the President of the United States.  Woke cancel culture and the suspension of freedom of speech.  And to top it all off, we got a close up look at massive electoral fraud spanning multiple states.

Millions of people are waking from a sleepwalking existence that ignored the reality all around us.  Now we can see what’s see going on.  The only real unknown is what will we do about it.  As you can see from the answers I got to my questions there is no consensus or even conviction as to what should be done.  But I see value in asking people what they think at the moment.  I’ll include a little poll to see what the readers here think.  I’ll follow up afterwards with my comments on the results.


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Who is the Worst RINO in Recent History?

I skipped small timers like most of the house reps who voted for impeachment and guys like Jeb! and some of the small time hoodlums who showed up in the White House cabinet positions.  But if I missed someone good feel free to pick “other” and add him in in the comments.  Pick the creepiest low down skunk of the bunch.  I tell you it’s not an easy pick.  McCain, Romney, Ryan.  It’s real close.


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Update:  The people have spoken.  Mitt Romney is, hands down, the the most despised Republican.  Quite an honor.