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Neil M. Dunn
Red state legislatures should reinstate control over the election process B4 2022 for any chance of changing the House majority party and must reinstate control….B4 2024 if there is to be any chance to have Trump(or similar) become President. I am not optimistic.
photog
Reply to Neil M. Dunn
Neither am I. PA, WI, AZ & GA should have already been galvanized by the November outrage. Instead, crickets.
NC_Craig
Like you, I was relatively okay with Trump’s speech. It sounded like a pre-election rally, a call to action of some sort, and a synopsis of why he’s great and Biden is not. Fine: Everyone listening gets it. He’s preaching to the choir. The question is twofold: How are we going to get back control, and secondly, Who is going to lead this process?
We now understand that no institution in the United States is going to stand firm for American values, laws, the Constitution, history, culture, language or borders. At least not at the leadership levels — people on the line, doing the work agree with conservatives, but the controlling executive and managerial levels don’t.
I think we can demonstrate with history, that in most situations people only learn things and move to action with pain. It would be nice if we learned through pleasure, but it doesn’t seem that way. If so, then it isn’t enough for Americans to wake up and see what’s going on around them. That’s been happening for decades, presumably under some sort of organized planning.
No; we’re too far down the road to socialism and American tyranny. Instead, we’re going to have to now live through the results of decades of apathy, inaction, and wanting someone else to do the work. As Trump said, conservatives are nice; Democrats are vicious. And we know how difficult it is to change human nature. There’s an old poem making the rounds about how the Saxons learned to hate. It will take a lot more, and a lot of real pain for conservatives to learn to be as strong as our opponents.
photog
Reply to NC_Craig
Craig, I agree completely with what you describe. Somebody with a lot of courage and some brains is going to have to step forward and actually take a stand. And if he has a plan that will work men will follow him.
War Pig
Reply to photog
But he or she will be assassinated or “cancelled” or have false charges of sexual harassment, etc, brought against them. If the bastards are now going after Dr Seuss, there is no limit to their perfidy.
They got JFK and Bobby Kennedy, almost got Reagan and even went after poor Gerald Ford. Frankly, I’m surprised Trump survived. The left is the party of racism, violence and assassination. They whistle up their brown shirt Antifa and BLM like Maduro whistles up his “militia”, both to suppress opposition to the regime.
I can see red state pushback but not secession. One pushback I’d like to see is the state basically kicking federal personnel out. Force all offices of the IRS and FBI to close and leave. If the feds retaliate with loss of federal money, then tell state residents they no longer have to pay US income tax, and dare the feds to try and enforce it. Red states put more into the federal coffers than they get back as it is. Threaten to have Military bases power and water cut off from outside the base borders, where the state rules, if the feds keep it up. Use the National Guard as the new state military and refuse to federalize them when congress tries.
If turned loose, the Texas Rangers can enforce the law quite well in Texas. FBI not needed. Also create another border just inside the US border and put up a wall or fence. Texas can then refuse to accept illegals.
I said many times that this was going to be the most crooked election in our history. I was right. The Democrats went after the election and they pulled out all the stops, every dirty trick in the book was used. Now they are in charge of government they will only entrench themselves further. No illegal act, no falsehood, no theft, no felony will be too bad for them to use in their quest for power.
The problem is, conservatives are basically decent people. Democrats are vicious swine with no moral scruples at all. They will support anything if it helps them achieve their ends. Murder, riot, arson, theft, vote fraud, lies, false charges, suppression of the Bill of Rights – anything. Things conservatives cannot bring themselves to do. So conservatives are always fighting with one foot in a bucket of cement and one hand tied behind their backs.
photog
Reply to War Pig
You know War Pig, that’s all very true and I may be getting senile but I’m actually more optimistic since the election fraud than I was before. I think the farce that is the Biden Administration will do more to wake up America than anything Trump could have done in a second term. I’m hoping that one of the governors will step up and tell Biden and his goons to go pound sand. As I said I’m probably dead wrong but I’m feeling optimistic.
War Pig
Reply to photog
Unless they face legal repercussions, they will continue to violate election laws at will. Until one of the mighty goes to prison, there is no stopping them. Why shouldn’t they steal elections? They get away with it, and nobody pays the price. When they steal the elections, they can stymie any investigation. Look at Ohio. The federal prosecutor in our area arrested the speaker of the Ohio house on corruption charges. He was building a case on the largest state-level corruption and money laundering scheme he’d ever heard of. But, he has now packed his bags and gone as Biden replaced him. The Democratic-leaning replacement doesn’t seem very interested in the case so far.
We would need a President able to drain the swamp and it would take four terms in office at least, with both houses of congress firmly in conservative hands for those four terms. That’s how long FDR took to fill the swamp.
photog
Reply to War Pig
At this point I think if anything is going to be done it will happen in a red state. The federal government is hopelessly lost to the Left.
NC_Craig
Reply to photog
The Federal Government is bankrupt, hence the unlimited printing of money. It will collapse, along with EBT cards and money, unemployment checks and so forth. Then there will be riots, mostly in the urban centers. Let’s see how well the Federal Government does in holding onto their control when the money runs out.
photog
Reply to NC_Craig
Exactly how long the federal government can print unlimited trillions of dollars is unknown by me. I’m not sure anyone knows when the currency will collapse.
NC_Craig
Reply to photog
Gov. Ron DeSantis – Florida
photog
Reply to NC_Craig
He does seem to be doing a lot of things right. What might make things even more interesting is if he started coordinating with as many of the other red states as are interested to coordinate efforts. They could form their own League or Bloc. I think that could be very useful.
NC_Craig
Reply to War Pig
THE WRATH OF THE AWAKENED SAXON
by Rudyard Kipling
It was not part of their blood,
It came to them very late,
With long arrears to make good,
When the Saxon began to hate.
They were not easily moved,
They were icy — willing to wait
Till every count should be proved,
Ere the Saxon began to hate.
Their voices were even and low.
Their eyes were level and straight.
There was neither sign nor show
When the Saxon began to hate.
It was not preached to the crowd.
It was not taught by the state.
No man spoke it aloud
When the Saxon began to hate.
It was not suddenly bred.
It will not swiftly abate.
Through the chilled years ahead,
When Time shall count from the date
That the Saxon began to hate.
NC_Craig
Reply to photog
Jefferson Davis had an entire government in place for the Confederacy; including a currency and banking system. Lincoln had technology. In today’s world, conservatives have the technology, while the only thing the aristocrats have is a currency, and identity politics.
photog
Reply to NC_Craig
This will be difficult and no one really knows how this will go but there are an awful lot of people whose eyes have been opened. It may happen faster than we think. We just need the right match. And I think that match will be a hero.
NC_Craig
Reply to NC_Craig
(Sorry for the long comment, but I guess I’m passionate.)
I’m reading the comments, and it seems we’re all seeing the same thing: With control over law, justice, congress, and (of course) the bureaucracy, there doesn’t seem to be a way to change things. The single, biggest problem we all face is utter lack of accountability. Nobody has gone to jail for anything in my lifetime, and that spans at least 40 years as an adult paying attention. Yes, there have been one or two major cases, but we’ll likely agree that perps along the lines of the Clintons, Bidens, Pelosis, and so forth — the upper leadership of government — should be tried and convicted.
The biggest problem for the other side — the tyrants — is the size of the United States. Go back and re-watch the original “Red Dawn” movie, in light of today’s world. You’ll see numerous major flaws of logic, logistics, and cause-effect. People say we’ll become like Venezuela. And yes, that’s what the tyrants (or more properly, the aristocrats) want.
Okay: Venezuela is, what…the size of Texas? The US has all the resources needed for a completely self-sufficient nation. But the biggest (historic) distinction between the US and every other nation that’s fallen to tyranny, is the armed citizenry. People say that individuals can’t go up against a military. I would argue most of the military personnel are on the side of the free citizens.
When the Soviet Union was about to collapse, the general(s) and politicians who led the coup, failed. In retrospect, they said that the only way a coup, revolution, or insurgency can succeed is with the large majority of the citizens supporting that cause. With 80+ million conservatives that we know about as voters, I would say that’s a significant majority.
The logistics of actually taking control of this nation, as the aristocrats want, are nearly impossible. They would have almost no infrastructure support — conservatives overwhelmingly are the mechanics, engineers, and construction sector, along with farming, processing and delivering food, goods and services. Democrats control the large, urban centers. They don’t control entire “blue” states. Dominion voting machines make it appear so, but county-by-county vote tallies show the truth. Urban centers are extremely vulnerable.
We, as a nation, will have to be forced into a direct confrontation. In Germany and the USSR, when the secret police came in the dead of night, the citizens didn’t have guns. They could have used knives, bricks, table legs, or bludgeons, but they didn’t. Europe has a history of centuries of being led by kings, czars, and other monarchs or dictators. The people were almost genetically conditioned to follow orders.
Americans have only a history of liberty. Almost any child on a playground, when confronted, will say, “It’s a free world: I can do what I want.” Ignore the child’s argument, and focus on that automatic assumption of freedom. When the police (or foreign mercenaries) come for us, America isn’t at all like Europe. Many people will die, and those mercenaries will be far more cautious about going after the citizens (outside the urban centers) in a wholesale manner.
We should be optimistic, but not because we’ll somehow find a great leader. No; it’s because when things really and truly reach the breaking point, there will be armed resistance. And even if the military tried to side with the Administration, how many citizens would it take to overwhelm that equipment? And how many previous military have the skills to fly helicopters, fighter planes, and every other damn thing.
We’ve tried a peaceful resistance, with the voting. That failed, and I see no real attempt to fix it. We tried the courts, and now, with even Durham quitting, that failed. We’ll try passive resistance and non-compliance, and that likely won’t work either. Then “they’ll” come for us. And that’s when half the population will finally make a stand and say, “No!”
photog
Reply to NC_Craig
Craig, you have thought about these things quite a bit. And lately so have I. I agree Americans are not Russian serfs that will passively turn themselves in to the secret police. But I do hope that a governor and a state legislature will show some backbone and tell the feds to pound sand when they come for the guns. I no longer think it’s a sure thing that the so-called conservative majority on the Supreme Court will protect the Bill or Rights. I despise Roberts passionately but he may not be the only traitor.
NC_Craig
Reply to NC_Craig
I forgot the biggest adversary of all: the banks and financial oligarchy. Control the money, and you control the nation. That’s what’s behind all this in the first place: financial control of the world’s resources. Standing against that is the American foundation of free-market capitalism, entreprenneurs, black markets, and lack of “respect” for government in general.
photog
Reply to NC_Craig
The banks belong to them. We’re going to need our own banks.
War Pig
Reply to NC_Craig
“People say that individuals can’t go up against a military. I would argue most of the military personnel are on the side of the free citizens.”
The left likes to forget that there are something like 24 million veterans in civil society. Even if the military takes the left’s side (which I also doubt), they are short on manpower to occupy this entire, large nation, as you so accurately pointed out. Plus many of the combat vets have seen action in Vietnam and in Afghanistan/Iraq, where we beat the enemy at their own guerilla war game. Our veterans know how to prosecute a guerilla war, and enough of them have experience with IEDs to make any occupying force whish it had stayed in barracks.
Yamamoto said he had no intention of trying to invade the US mainland and “face a gun behind every blade of grass”. The old Soviet marshals said pretty much the same thing. You are both correct, the armed citizenry is the key to freedom. That is why the left is trying so hard to disarm us.
One leftist pundit said that; “if you need 30 rounds to hunt, you suck at hunting”: to which the correct reply is; “if you need a disarmed populace to govern, you suck at governing”.
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